She won't start! Help!

Originally Posted by TSM

When you try and start the bike, do you hear the starter relay clicking, YES
when you turn on the bike with the Kill switched off, do you hear the injectors priming? YES Any error codes on the LCD (you will probably have to put it in "dealer mode")? HOW DO I DO THAT? Explain more this noise you herd from the engine before it went all wrong. It kinda sounded like I had something sticky on one of the tyres which was making a noise as I was pulling away.

Even with the clutch pulled in or out a push start should be enough to turn over the engine bypassing the starter circuit.

Thing is it push started first time, then wouldn't do it again.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

Umh... weird...

So with the ignition on with the bike on the sidestand, you've got an oil light, you hear the bike pressurise the fuel rail and you've got a Neutral light, but when you pull the clutch in the lights dim, the starter doesnt turn and the headlights dim.

You got it.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

It wont, which side did it go down on maybe the clutch levers a little bent and even with the clutch pulled in its not working the bypass switch properly.

Might be worth having a search for the instructions on how to bypass the clutch switch and then see if it'll start.

My point was, that if the lights DONT dim with the clutch lever out, and DO with the clutch lever in, then this proves the switch is OK

You heard the starter relay clicking so it is DEFNITLEY not the clutch switch.

Pete

Gotcha. I'll give it a go in t'morning.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Pigbunk

You got it.

OK IMHO and I'm no expert. I think that when the bike was on its side, the oil has been pumped up the crankcase breathers and into the airbox. Then when you've picked the bike up that oil has run down the airbox and maybe into the throttle bodies or what ever new fangled pointies have instead of carburettors and then down in the cylinders. Causing hydraulic lock which now means that theres to much pressure in the cylinders and the starter motor won't turn the engine over. IMHO this also explains why the bike doensnt run now when you try and bump start it.

Somebody else talked about "Hydraulic Lock" in another post in this thread. I think this is whats happened and I wouldnt try and start it again till you've at least lifted the tank and taken the airfilter out and seen whats lurking about in your airbox. If you can take the plugs out and then turn the bike over and see if it pumps oil out of the plug holes.

Like I said I'm no expert, but I've had similar problems with my SV with oil / petrol in the airbox causes similar issues where I can't start the bike.

HTH

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by netsurfer

My point was, that if the lights DONT dim with the clutch lever out, and DO with the clutch lever in, then this proves the switch is OK

You heard the starter relay clicking so it is DEFNITLEY not the clutch switch.

Pete

He's right you know

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

OK IMHO and I'm no expert. I think that when the bike was on its side, the oil has been pumped up the crankcase breathers and into the airbox. Then when you've picked the bike up that oil has run down the airbox and maybe into the throttle bodies or what ever new fangled pointies have instead of carburettors and then down in the cylinders. Causing hydraulic lock which now means that theres to much pressure in the cylinders and the starter motor won't turn the engine over. IMHO this also explains why the bike doensnt run now when you try and bump start it.

Somebody else talked about "Hydraulic Lock" in another post in this thread. I think this is whats happened and I wouldnt try and start it again till you've at least lifted the tank and taken the airfilter out and seen whats lurking about in your airbox. If you can take the plugs out and then turn the bike over and see if it pumps oil out of the plug holes.

Like I said I'm no expert, but I've had similar problems with my SV with oil / petrol in the airbox causes similar issues where I can't start the bike.

HTH

Cheers fizz, I'll give that a go tomorrow. If that is what's causing the problem, how do I remedy it?

Originally Posted by netsurfer

You heard the starter relay clicking so it is DEFNITLEY not the clutch switch.

Pete

No, the starter relay isn't doing a thing. All that happens when the clutch is in and the button is pushed is that the lights dim. (Sorry, only just noticed this post!)

[TSM]

If you can take the sparks out and make sure the HT leads are nowhere near the holes, then you should be able to turn the engine over on the starter. Any excess oil should get pumped out. I think its unlikley, my bike has never suffered it ever and its been a fair bit on its side and does not have the cut out sensor the pointies have.

[TSM]

Originally Posted by Pigbunk

No, the starter relay isn't doing a thing. All that happens when the clutch is in and the button is pushed is that the lights dim. (Sorry, only just noticed this post!)

You replied to my post saying that it did click when you pressed the starter. It will only click once when you press the starter. If its rapidly clicks it would indicate a low battery.