Ignition advancer? - SV650.org

14-07-06, 11:02 AM

Hi folks,
I've been reading these forums recently and noticed some of you guys mention an ignition advancer. I realise this is a way of tuning a few extra horses out of your engine but what is this advancer? Where do you get one? Is it pricey and does it need dyno set up? Most importantly........ is it worth it?

Hopefully you clever, clever people out there in SV land can shed some light

TSM · 14-07-06, 11:15 AM

JHS Racing will sell you one for about £15, you will also need a gasket & rotor puller tool from someone.

You dont need to dyno it, but if you are doing it with a air filter & exhaust upgrade then its probably best to do so.

14-07-06, 11:42 AM

Gives you more torque lower down the rev range, and maybe an extra 2bhp if you're lucky. Not the huge punch some might think it to be, the results are IMO quite subtle but worth having. If you combine it with the R6 throttle tube mod, and lower the gearing with a rear sprocket with an extra couple of teeth (46) then you'll notice a nice difference.

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northwind · 14-07-06, 11:42 AM

I think it's worth it. It's not really for peak opower, don't expect a lot there, what it does is brigns the power down the revs so you get a much better power and torque curve. For real world riding, it's ace. Pretty cheap too. Not quite easy to do, but not massively difficult either.

14-07-06, 02:23 PM

thanx you clever, clever people.

I'm looking into buying one as we speak

NedSVS · 14-07-06, 07:34 PM

The cheapest boost in midrange you'll ever get

johnnyrod · 17-07-06, 07:49 AM

Before and after...

http://www.johnnyrod.co.uk/dyno.gif

onna curvy

17-07-06, 08:46 AM

Isn't this the same as the ignition retarder mod ?

What's the difference ?

17-07-06, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickUK

Isn't this the same as the ignition retarder mod ?

What's the difference ?

No, the ignition advancer brings the spark in earlyer in a revolution, the ignition retard mod stop the ignition being retarded at a certain point in 2nd and 3rd IIRC

johnnyrod · 17-07-06, 10:44 AM

Disabling the TRE made little difference on my bike, except it didn't chug quite so much at the bottom end of second gear - below 3k, like pulling up to junctions or whatever, not where you'd really use it anyway. Might as well do it, it's free after all!

14-07-06, 11:02 AM	#1
sixstring Guest Posts: n/a	Ignition advancer? Hi folks, I've been reading these forums recently and noticed some of you guys mention an ignition advancer. I realise this is a way of tuning a few extra horses out of your engine but what is this advancer? Where do you get one? Is it pricey and does it need dyno set up? Most importantly........ is it worth it? Hopefully you clever, clever people out there in SV land can shed some light

14-07-06, 11:15 AM	#2
TSM The Sick Man Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Peckham.SE.LDN Posts: 4,768	JHS Racing will sell you one for about £15, you will also need a gasket & rotor puller tool from someone. You dont need to dyno it, but if you are doing it with a air filter & exhaust upgrade then its probably best to do so. __________________ OTR: KTM 690 Duke R 2015 Full Akro SIDELINE: Kwak ZX636 A1P 2002, Red, R&G's, Yoshi, Double Bubble Screen GONE: Kwak ZX-7R P1, Full Akro, Undertray, Screen GONE: SV650S K2 Very Bruised & Without Fairing, Motovation Frame Sliders, R&G Ally Sprocket Toe Protector, HEL 2 Line Setup, GSXR K1 600 RWU Forks, Barnett Clutch & Springs, Penske 8981 Shock, Gilles Ti Rearsets, Steel Barends, Scottoiler, AFAM Chain & Sprockets, Twin FIAMM Horns, Skidmarx Bellypan, Full Micron Zeta Steel System, Cut down undertay. Forum Problems & Information / Site Suggestions

14-07-06, 11:42 AM	#4
northwind Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the garage where I belong Posts: 17,082	I think it's worth it. It's not really for peak opower, don't expect a lot there, what it does is brigns the power down the revs so you get a much better power and torque curve. For real world riding, it's ace. Pretty cheap too. Not quite easy to do, but not massively difficult either. __________________ "We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day We like what we like, we hate what we hate But we're oh so easily swayed"

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14-07-06, 11:42 AM	#3
jonboy Guest Posts: n/a	Gives you more torque lower down the rev range, and maybe an extra 2bhp if you're lucky. Not the huge punch some might think it to be, the results are IMO quite subtle but worth having. If you combine it with the R6 throttle tube mod, and lower the gearing with a rear sprocket with an extra couple of teeth (46) then you'll notice a nice difference. .

14-07-06, 02:23 PM	#5
sixstring Guest Posts: n/a	thanx you clever, clever people. I'm looking into buying one as we speak

14-07-06, 07:34 PM	#6
NedSVS Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 567	The cheapest boost in midrange you'll ever get

17-07-06, 07:49 AM	#7
johnnyrod Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Doncaster, oop norf Posts: 2,122	Before and after... http://www.johnnyrod.co.uk/dyno.gif onna curvy

17-07-06, 08:46 AM	#8
SpankyHam Guest Posts: n/a	Isn't this the same as the ignition retarder mod ? What's the difference ?

17-07-06, 10:44 AM	#10
johnnyrod Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Doncaster, oop norf Posts: 2,122	Disabling the TRE made little difference on my bike, except it didn't chug quite so much at the bottom end of second gear - below 3k, like pulling up to junctions or whatever, not where you'd really use it anyway. Might as well do it, it's free after all!