The Covid19 thread

[SV650rules]

Infection rates are high ( big clue, massive amounts of tests being carried of ) but are not resulting in hospitalization or death ( 24 deaths in last 24 hours ). All the people at high risk have had two doses of vaccine.

We are going to have to learn to live with this virus, come out of the cellar and carry on with life.... there have been many casualties covid, but not from the virus, from the cessation of normal life that was caused by lockdown. Sweden may have not done better this UK, but certainly no worse...

[svenrico]

Keep wearing a face mask, social distancing, using hand sanitiser or whatever , if you think it necessary and where you can. People don't have to abandon every precaution, there is still some choice.

[Adam Ef]

It's other peoples choices that will affect some of us. If you're working in retail / service then you can't avoid morons. We have so many people ducking under our barrier that says to stay at the door and coming into our workhop space (which they're not meant to anytime) saying "it's ok, I've been jabbed". Great for them, but not all our staff have yet.

[Seeker]

NE Lincs is currently #2 in England for high virus rates and our local MP came on BBC's Look North to explain that, because there were only 6 people in our hospitals with covid, he was "content" that the relaxation plan was correct and should go ahead.

I emailed him (of course), explained he was guilty of a malapropism and the word he was looking for was "complacent".

I also emailed Look North and explained that since Martin Vickers MP always votes along party lines, his attitude was no surprise; he's just a yes man.

[Seeker]

Well, this is working out well so far:
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/travel-tes...195135426.html

[SV650rules]

Originally Posted by Seeker

NE Lincs is currently #2 in England for high virus rates and our local MP came on BBC's Look North to explain that, because there were only 6 people in our hospitals with covid, he was "content" that the relaxation plan was correct and should go ahead.

I emailed him (of course), explained he was guilty of a malapropism and the word he was looking for was "complacent".

I also emailed Look North and explained that since Martin Vickers MP always votes along party lines, his attitude was no surprise; he's just a yes man.

You cannot stop the whole country for a few people in hospital, there have been no deaths in Shrophire for ages now, and very few in hospital - all the vulnerable have been vaccinated, the younger ones will get it, shake it off and have natural immunity, which is better than synthetic immunity. We need to stop cowing in the cellar and get on with things..

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by SV650rules

You cannot stop the whole country for a few people in hospital, there have been no deaths in Shrophire for ages now, and very few in hospital - all the vulnerable have been vaccinated, the younger ones will get it, shake it off and have natural immunity, which is better than synthetic immunity. We need to stop cowing in the cellar and get on with things..

I have no problem with relaxing the rules if done prudently but pretending that the exponential explosion of case rates in parts of the country does not exist is not being prudent.

To listen to the government, if we don't do it now we're all doomed and we'll live in masks and be socially isolated forever. If the vaccines are working so well, why not wait until most people are vaccinated? Since we were told that wearing masks protects other people and not necessarily yourself - allowing it to be voluntary means they will become worthless if a large number refuse to wear them.

Other countries are looking at us as a test case, a lab experiment to see what happens and the WHO has suggested a more cautious approach would be wise. This is a political decision rather than a scientific decision.

The government said that they expect people to use their common sense forgetting that it's the same people that voted them in - common sense is in short supply.

[DJ123]

Originally Posted by Seeker

I have no problem with relaxing the rules if done prudently but pretending that the exponential explosion of case rates in parts of the country does not exist is not being prudent.

To listen to the government, if we don't do it now we're all doomed and we'll live in masks and be socially isolated forever. If the vaccines are working so well, why not wait until most people are vaccinated? Since we were told that wearing masks protects other people and not necessarily yourself - allowing it to be voluntary means they will become worthless if a large number refuse to wear them.

Other countries are looking at us as a test case, a lab experiment to see what happens and the WHO has suggested a more cautious approach would be wise. This is a political decision rather than a scientific decision.

The government said that they expect people to use their common sense forgetting that it's the same people that voted them in - common sense is in short supply.

How did spreads happen during lockdown & times of social distancing and household bubbles? People breaking the rules. There are people in society who will do what they want, regardless.
We 'survived' the first wave when very little was known about it, and what to do. And the subsequent waves after where we now have more information about it, better safety in place and a lot of vaccinated people too.
Not everyone is going to go out to a Nightclub and getting as close to everyone as possible, and the same for the Football.
This is our removing the sticking plaster moment to see what happens in society when a lot of Government guidance/mandated rules are removed.
I don't think anyone is under the illusion that this is the end and we made it.
There will still be restrictions of sorts in all places of society, and if the figures very quickly go the other way other will be bought back in too - including local & national lockdowns.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Adam Ef

It's other peoples choices that will affect some of us. If you're working in retail / service then you can't avoid morons. We have so many people ducking under our barrier that says to stay at the door and coming into our workhop space (which they're not meant to anytime) saying "it's ok, I've been jabbed". Great for them, but not all our staff have yet.

My son worked in retail and became exasperated because management would not enforce the rules.

[Bibio]

according to some of the symptoms (cant taste or smell nowt with a bit of a cold and sore throat) i have had covid twice. once right at the begging of it all and again around January.