Pedal bikes on the road

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by maviczap

It's not road tax, it's an emmisson tax, based on how much you vehicle pumps out. Pushbikes don't pump out pollution, so don't pay Vehicle Excise Duty, it's not a road tax.

You seen some of these cnuts in lycra? Eye pollution.

[ophic]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

You seen some of these cnuts in lycra? Eye pollution.

One of the benefits of being in London. No pollution round here! Not from the lycra clad pushbiker-esses anyway.

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

You seen some of these cnuts in lycra? Eye pollution.

Something like this then sweetie

[ophic]

I'm still fairly new to this commuting into London lark, and I still maintain that 99% of cyclists are ok.

So the other day I encountered "dopey death-wish cyclist" - posted earlier in this thread about that. There's a fair few about.

Today I came across "mouthy self-righteous cyclist". I'd filtered at some red lights to the front of the queue, and I noticed several cyclists stuck behind me, so I eased forward into the cyclist zone to let them through. Whilst waiting for the lights to change, another cyclist filters through from another gap on the left and pulls his bike across the front of mine, like almost a T shape. Ok fine, but he dawdles when the lights change. So when my engine revs start to rise, he shouts at me, lip-read as something about keeping out of cyclist areas - couldn't quite make it out as my clutch control isn't very good when avoiding mouthy cyclists and my engine might have been bouncing off the rev limiter.

Does anyone else find their clutch control affected in this way?

Any more comedy cyclist categories to add? There must be hundreds.

[Dipper]

Originally Posted by ophic

I'm still fairly new to this commuting into London lark, and I still maintain that 99% of cyclists are ok.

So the other day I encountered "dopey death-wish cyclist" - posted earlier in this thread about that. There's a fair few about.

Today I came across "mouthy self-righteous cyclist". I'd filtered at some red lights to the front of the queue, and I noticed several cyclists stuck behind me, so I eased forward into the cyclist zone to let them through. Whilst waiting for the lights to change, another cyclist filters through from another gap on the left and pulls his bike across the front of mine, like almost a T shape. Ok fine, but he dawdles when the lights change. So when my engine revs start to rise, he shouts at me, lip-read as something about keeping out of cyclist areas - couldn't quite make it out as my clutch control isn't very good when avoiding mouthy cyclists and my engine might have been bouncing off the rev limiter.

Does anyone else find their clutch control affected in this way?

Any more comedy cyclist categories to add? There must be hundreds.

Be careful entering the cycle box, at the moment if you get caught it's 3 points, £100 fine and the same offence code as jumping a red light but that still doesn't make "mouthy self-righteous cyclist" right!

In theory. In reality most of the police cars I've seen on the road are as **** with cycle boxes as the rest of the road users. I try to avoid entering them unless I filter to the front and the car at the front hasn't stopped in the correct place (though, I'll admit they may have entered on amber / green which is perfectly legal) in which case I'll filter move far enough forward that they can see me, cycle box or no cycle box.

Police can only do you for entering the cycle box if they have seen you enter on a red light. If a controlled stop for a yellow to red light brings you to a stop at the advanced stop line (in the bike box), that is perfectly legal.

The fact that he came along afterwards shows that mouthy self-righteous cyclist means he probably didn't see what happened. They were talking about trialling it being legal for motorbikes to stop in these boxes, after a lobbying from motorbike groups that having the pushbikes in front of the motorbikes like that is in fact dangerous.

I often stopped in them on the motorbike, i.e. filtered to the front and used the space especially from the right hand side of the cars.

There are some signs up on Chiswick high road which show the 'correct' use of cycle boxes. The motorcyclist is to the right of the car stopped before the line with the cyclist in front.

Unfortunately no one seems to have considered how you get to that state since the motorbike will be blocking the pushbikes path to the front in a significant number of instances. Maybe they expect the cyclist to go up the left of the vehicle stopped at the line, because that is safe...