Swingarm play - Pointy - SV650.org

10-07-13, 12:19 PM

Hi guys im new and yes ive already had a bit of a search with some mixed results!

Basically i have just bought a K3 650S pointy and on the MOT its got a advisory notice about slight swingarm play.

When you lift the weight from the rear of the bike i can feel at a guess 2/3mm of sideways movement at the chain adjuster area/rear of the swingarm?

Now from what ive seen some people say its normal and others dont, personally im not happy with it as it must effect the bike say when you hit a bump mid bend?

What do i need to fix this and costs involved? the bike is a 2003 and has done just under 17k

Thanks
Chris

Bibio · 10-07-13, 12:22 PM

this is perfectly normal and to 'fix' it you need to shim the bushes.

10-07-13, 01:38 PM

Can i buy a kit that includes these shims?

also is it likey that the bearings will actually need to be replaced or just re greese and fit shims?

Bibio · 10-07-13, 03:48 PM

there is nowhere that sells the shims. there is however a kind member on the forum who can make them.

depends on the state of the bearings.

Sid Squid · 10-07-13, 11:44 PM

You need to make sure if the whole swingarm is moving side to side parallel the axis of the bike, or cocking side to side. The first might be fixed by shimming the poor factory fit end play, the second won't and indicates worn bearings and/or bushes.

muzikill · 11-07-13, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

You need to make sure if the whole swingarm is moving side to side parallel the axis of the bike, or cocking side to side. The first might be fixed by shimming the poor factory fit end play, the second won't and indicates worn bearings and/or bushes.

At 17k I'm suprised if it's knacked. The Mot tester may be unaware that it is 'factory spec' play.

Sid Squid · 11-07-13, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muzikill

At 17k I'm suprised if it's knacked. The Mot tester may be unaware that it is 'factory spec' play.

Both true - I'd still make absolutely certain of what I was dealing with before I did anything about it.

Add to this that I've seen every bearing you can imagine duffed in no time at all - age and mileage are no guarantee whatsoever.

muzikill · 11-07-13, 10:48 AM

Did anyone ever conclude why there is swingarm play from the factory? Surely its a design fault?

Biker Biggles · 11-07-13, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by muzikill

Did anyone ever conclude why there is swingarm play from the factory? Surely its a design fault?

You might well think that.Suzuki couldnt possibly comment

Bibio · 11-07-13, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muzikill

Did anyone ever conclude why there is swingarm play from the factory? Surely its a design fault?

phone or email them and ask

10-07-13, 12:19 PM	#1
chris c Guest Posts: n/a	Swingarm play - Pointy Hi guys im new and yes ive already had a bit of a search with some mixed results! Basically i have just bought a K3 650S pointy and on the MOT its got a advisory notice about slight swingarm play. When you lift the weight from the rear of the bike i can feel at a guess 2/3mm of sideways movement at the chain adjuster area/rear of the swingarm? Now from what ive seen some people say its normal and others dont, personally im not happy with it as it must effect the bike say when you hit a bump mid bend? What do i need to fix this and costs involved? the bike is a 2003 and has done just under 17k Thanks Chris

10-07-13, 12:22 PM	#2
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,540	Re: Swingarm movement! this is perfectly normal and to 'fix' it you need to shim the bushes.

10-07-13, 01:38 PM	#3
chris c Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Swingarm movement! Can i buy a kit that includes these shims? also is it likey that the bearings will actually need to be replaced or just re greese and fit shims?

10-07-13, 03:48 PM	#4
Bibio Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: here as devil's advocate Posts: 11,540	Re: Swingarm movement! there is nowhere that sells the shims. there is however a kind member on the forum who can make them. depends on the state of the bearings.

10-07-13, 11:44 PM	#5
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Swingarm movement! You need to make sure if the whole swingarm is moving side to side parallel the axis of the bike, or cocking side to side. The first might be fixed by shimming the poor factory fit end play, the second won't and indicates worn bearings and/or bushes. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

11-07-13, 10:48 AM	#8
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