Gripe of the day - What is yours?

[svenrico]

Private dental treatment is now more obvious at my local dentist. Pay more for private treatment and have it done straight away, or book in with the receptionist for NHS treatment on your way out and find you have to wait 6 months!

[embee]

Originally Posted by svenrico

Take back control of what though ? EU seems to have been dictating the terms.

Yep, and if we are so feeble as to let them dictate the terms then so be it. They aren't going to be particularly benevolent or philanthropic towards us, why would they? We made the decision and we got what we wanted. We had 4 1/2 years to decide what we wanted.

Just to be clear, I was never in favour of voting for a blank sheet of paper. When you sign a blank contract with "T&Cs to be completed later" don't be surprised at what gets written there at a later date. You've signed it, tough.

I would have preferred to remain, I used the privileges of being able to work freely in different EU countries in the past and the loss of that alone seems such a retrograde step. I genuinely feel sorry for the musicians/performers who have just realised what the reality of being a third country actually means, but that's what it is. Similarly the farmers and fishing trade, it's a great shame that they now are subject to a lot of restrictive rules/regs, but that's what happens.

[SV650rules]

Originally Posted by embee

Yep, and if we are so feeble as to let them dictate the terms then so be it. They aren't going to be particularly benevolent or philanthropic towards us, why would they? We made the decision and we got what we wanted. We had 4 1/2 years to decide what we wanted.

Just to be clear, I was never in favour of voting for a blank sheet of paper. When you sign a blank contract with "T&Cs to be completed later" don't be surprised at what gets written there at a later date. You've signed it, tough.

I would have preferred to remain, I used the privileges of being able to work freely in different EU countries in the past and the loss of that alone seems such a retrograde step. I genuinely feel sorry for the musicians/performers who have just realised what the reality of being a third country actually means, but that's what it is. Similarly the farmers and fishing trade, it's a great shame that they now are subject to a lot of restrictive rules/regs, but that's what happens.

After all the hype about financial companies rushing out of UK to the EU..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...utposts-in-u-k

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by garynortheast

Oven ready deal apparently. Wonder where that weekly £350,000,000 got too?

ahhh the famous bojo bus. how did he become prime minister again?

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Bibio

ahhh the famous bojo bus. how did he become prime minister again?

...because people have very short memories, many get their opinions from the Mail/Express and no one looks at their policies. BoZo comes over as a funny buffoon - fun at parties? Perhaps. Leader of a country? Not in my opinion.

My neighbour, a delightful, 79 year old lady said there was no way she would vote for Corbyn (bearing in mind her deceased husband was chairman of the local boiler makers union). I explained some of Corbyn's policy ideas which she liked but still wouldn't vote for him because she didn't like him. How do you fight that?

[SV650rules]

Apparently they did a poll of football supporters and asked 'if every player in your local football team moved to another club, would you support the present local club or the new club they had moved to?' - they all said would continue to support their local club, even though they had a completely new team. Well voters are pretty much like that, they support the club, not the players... Political parties know that, which is why they could put lipstick on a pig and voters would vote for it in a lot of constituencies - which is also why 'safe seats' exist.... except Bojo stole a lot of 100 year labour seats in 2019.... mainly because a lot of people with real labour values found comrade Corbyn unelectable.

[SV650rules]

Originally Posted by Bibio

ahhh the famous bojo bus. how did he become prime minister again?

The fact is that the high court found the figure on the side of the bus was correct...

[admin]

Originally Posted by SV650rules

Apparently they did a poll of football supporters and asked 'if every player in your local football team moved to another club, would you support the present local club or the new club they had moved to?' - they all said would continue to support their local club, even though they had a completely new team. Well voters are pretty much like that, they support the club, not the players... Political parties know that, which is why they could put lipstick on a pig and voters would vote for it in a lot of constituencies - which is also why 'safe seats' exist.... except Bojo stole a lot of 100 year labour seats in 2019.... mainly because a lot of people with real labour values found comrade Corbyn unelectable.

I think Corbyn was just a little too far left for most voters. There are still people in the labour party that want to pull the party further to the left but they can't see that this would make them unelectable and what's the point of that. Love or hate him, Blair saw that hence the 'new labour' policy. Tories have a similar problem with members wanting to go further to the right hence Brexit and the current policies of favouring the rich and influential.

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[Bibio]

it matter not who you vote for as all politicians are just puppets being controlled by the people you cant vote for. if anyone is to blame for politicians stupid mistakes then blame the advisers.

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by embee

. Similarly the farmers and fishing trade, it's a great shame that they now are subject to a lot of restrictive rules/regs, but that's what happens.

- and wasn't fishing supposed to benefit a great deal from leaving ?!