The Covid19 thread

[Seeker]

Wasn't the EU, Astra-Zeneca contract written under Belgian law whereas the UK, Astra-Zeneca contract was written under UK law? Apparently (definitely not a legal expert here), Belgian law looks at what was intended in the law (which makes it harder to enforce) whereas UK law has to obey what is specifically written.

Once the expression "best efforts" is included when defining number of vaccines to be delivered, all it guarantees is long paid hours for the courts.

[R1ffR4ff]

Originally Posted by svenrico

Am I jumping the gun ? I had it in my mind that I could start riding again tomorrow without fear of being fined or whatever but now I am not sure about 'stay at home' or ' essential travel only' still being applicable !!!

From everything I've seen on TV and online there is now no legal requirement to ,"Stay Local" in England but are asking people to be sensible. To me this means I can go for a ride and if I were stopped and they tried to fine me I would contest it.

Ride safe as the last place I want to end up ATM is in Hospital

[embee]

Originally Posted by Seeker

Once the expression "best efforts" is included when defining number of vaccines to be delivered, all it guarantees is long paid hours for the courts.

"Reasonable best effort" is a pretty standard expression used in contracts, and is defined for the purposes of the contract in the definitions section of both contracts taking into account the scale of the businesses involved. What you would expect from a small company employing 5 people and from a multi-national enterprise is somewhat different. Both the EU and the UK contracts use the term in essentially the same manner. As for the jurisdiction of the contracts, I don't know.
How that can be enforced is, as you say, another matter for the lawyers.

The clause regarding any third part contract not affecting that contract is basically a declaration requirement, and I would have thought that was fairly cut and dried. It specifically includes any contract/agreement made before or after the contract in question so covers all possibilities.
I'd guess the EU is pretty versed in the art of contract law and would have tied up most loose ends. Whatever the outcome, it is most definitely not a direct conflict between the EU and the UK.

I do wonder what the UK media would have made of it if the shoe had been on the other foot and EU had written an exclusivity/priority term into the supply of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. I doubt it would have gone down very well.

[admin]

Originally Posted by R1ffR4ff

From everything I've seen on TV and online there is now no legal requirement to ,"Stay Local" in England but are asking people to be sensible. To me this means I can go for a ride and if I were stopped and they tried to fine me I would contest it.

Ride safe as the last place I want to end up ATM is in Hospital

I agree. I won't be wandering far but for the sake of my mental health I need to go for a ride avoiding people and using pay at pump for fuel.

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[DJ123]

Originally Posted by R1ffR4ff

From everything I've seen on TV and online there is now no legal requirement to ,"Stay Local" in England but are asking people to be sensible. To me this means I can go for a ride and if I were stopped and they tried to fine me I would contest it.

Ride safe as the last place I want to end up ATM is in Hospital

Go for it. I know i will be venturing further afield this weekend for some escapism. Although i know the roads will be busy as it is Easter.

[R1ffR4ff]

Originally Posted by admin

I agree. I won't be wandering far but for the sake of my mental health I need to go for a ride avoiding people and using pay at pump for fuel.

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Ditto. I'll be out but not too far. I've only been using my SV for shopping when I needed to go further than I wanted to cycle.

[R1ffR4ff]

Originally Posted by DJ123

Go for it. I know i will be venturing further afield this weekend for some escapism. Although i know the roads will be busy as it is Easter.

I learnt years ago to stay inland on Bank Holidays

[Bibio]

if you live somewhere else in the UK then please respect the Scottish government rules if you stay outside Scotland https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ges/timetable/

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Bibio

if you live somewhere else in the UK then please respect the Scottish government rules if you stay outside Scotland https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...ges/timetable/

Why should we respect the Scottish government rules if we stay outside Scotland ?!

[svenrico]

Originally Posted by embee

I have read the EU/AZ contract and these items are stated categorically, and AZ signed up to them.

How have you (with respect ) gained access to the EU/AZ contract ? Only going by what I saw on tv but they said the EU was not making the details of the contract available !