The dreaded E10 fuel scenario!

[gadget]

Originally Posted by Adam Ef

Genuine question.. why aren't we running on 50 percent ethanol then?

Good question. Probably something to do with production costs or something equally bizarre.
In reply to a previous post ... I'm not overly worried about using E10 as I've been using E5 for ever, my original question was ... is there an Ethanol safe carb kit for my curvy? Only considered replacing the fuel lines while I was doing a major service and my fuel lines (although in excellent condition) are still the original items from 1999, I've never minded a bit of overkill when it comes to engineering or future proofing so thought I'd kill two birds with one stone while I was spannering.

[R1ffR4ff]

AFAIK most modern carb kits use, "Viton" synthetic rubber parts and not the older butyl so I doubt even my 99 will be affected in normal use. I will be keeping an eye on it of course but I also suspect my the use of Redex will aid in reducing any problems. Even though it's not advertised as such I've never had stale-fuel problems when I have winterized my bike SV and using Redex or Carplan fuel cleaner.

Time will tell

[Craig380]

Originally Posted by Adam Ef

Genuine question.. why aren't we running on 50 percent ethanol then?

In the US and many other countries, E85 is widely available. It's between 51% and 85% ethanol. Some drag racers tune their engines to run on it as it can offer more torque than E5 / E10.

https://www.caranddriver.com/researc...at-is-e85-gas/

[glang]

Its also limited by the production capacity of ethanol. You need the raw vegetable material and of course the industrial complexes to make it. Theres serious doubt that at the moment CO2 emissions are being saved because of the fuel used to produce and transport the stuff. I suppose there is a tipping point where finally this is achieved but modifications will be needed in internal combustion engines to optimise their running on that level of ethanol so we may never reach it before electric takes over...

[Adam Ef]

... and it's likely electric won't be reliable and widespread enough before they work out the next thing everyone needs to switch to. I've heard a few people say hydrogen will be a more viable proposition before electric is established and in general realistic use (affordability to the general population , infrastructure etc).


(Getting a bit off topic now)

[Dave20046]

IS super unleaded now split between E5 and E10 or is it all E5 still?

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by Dave20046

IS super unleaded now split between E5 and E10 or is it all E5 still?

Esso Super 99 is E5 as is BP Ultimate. Tesco have said E5 will be available at some stations.

[johnnyrod]

High percentages of ethanol can be used but as said, producing it takes some doing. The carbon balance when it's from corn starch is poor but from sugar cane is good - US use corn, Brazil use cane and have been for many years, but then they have very few people for the amount of land they have. Not sure about wheat, that'll be what a lot of ours is. You don't get many mpg though, and really you need an engine designed for it as it has a high octane number, so you want the extra compression to make it all worthwhile, and the combustion products are acidic so at high levels they can't be ignored (as in Brazil).

A Bibio says I suspect this will all be a storm in a teacup although the papers and the likes of MCN are no doubt wailing about it. Headlines and facts however make poor bedfellows so it's bull**** season.

[Bibio]

why do you think there is a war on sugar in this country...... so the Beet could be used for ethanol production.

its easy to start a myth.. just put it out on social media and before you know it people go nutzzzz.

[gadget]

Originally Posted by bibio

why do you think there is a war on sugar in this country...... So the beet could be used for ethanol production.

Its easy to start a myth.. Just put it out on social media and before you know it people go nutzzzz.

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