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Old 12-10-21, 04:13 PM   #331
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UK's covid response was a failure...

Anyone surprised?

The only thing that is surprising is that it won't make any difference to BoZo's Clown Troupe's popularity.
Nope. I'm just surprised that no one tried to suppress or edit the report.

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Old 12-10-21, 05:06 PM   #332
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UK's covid response was a failure...

"...one of the worst ever public health failures" says an MP's report

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58876089

Anyone surprised?

The only thing that is surprising is that it won't make any difference to BoZo's Clown Troupe's popularity.
Of course not, especially when the opposition are too busy arguing internally to consider the public opinion of them.

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They couldn't, as it was pretty obvious for all to see they probably did a $h**e job if it all. So its not really 'news' in that we all knew already, and no one would be shocked by the outcome - which means it has no negative impact.
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Old 12-10-21, 06:35 PM   #333
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Hindsight is 20/20... people love to criticise, but when you ask them what they would have done it goes kinda quiet.
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not really. Pretty much everyone was saying to lockdown earlier than they did . . . . . .
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not really. Pretty much everyone was saying to lockdown earlier than they did . . . . . .
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not really. Pretty much everyone was saying to lockdown earlier than they did . . . . . .
... and close the borders.
... hospital patients transferred to care homes with no testing
... then there was the PPE corruption. - Contracts given to friends.
..."World beating" Test and Trace - the only thing world beating was the cost: £37 billion
... and they put Dido Harding in charge who had a track record of screw ups.
... the mixed messaging.
... eat out to help out campaign.

... plus the NHS had been pared back through austerity so we had fewer ICU beds than any European country.

Even today, mask wearing is a recommendation, an option - so naturally people are not doing it, yet we know it helps reduce the spread.
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Old 12-10-21, 07:23 PM   #337
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As we slowly recovered from the virus I repeatedly commented on why BoJo was not taking any action to make sure incomers were not bringing the virus into the country and spreading it.
I remember a ministers comment that the numbers involved were insignificant, bloody idiot.
Whilst we recovered an old school friend sadly succumbed to the virus - unforgivable negligence on the governments part - and there but for the grace of God it could have been us. (No I am not particularly religious)
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Hindsight is 20/20... people love to criticise, but when you ask them what they would have done it goes kinda quiet.
The thing is there are supposed to be experts in various fields who shouldn't need hindsight to make the right decisions and who could reasonably be expected to forecast the likely results of whatever actions are going to be taken.
( It's like saying nobody could have predicted Brexit would create problems with Northern Ireland, Scotland having a case for wanting another referendum, problems with labour/European workers etc, etc ! ) They should have known these things.
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Guess you can listen, and follow the advice from the experts or just ignore it.
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not really. Pretty much everyone was saying to lockdown earlier than they did . . . . . .

What will happen when it is found that lockdowns actually caused more deaths than the virus, and amongst younger people who did not get proper diagnosis and treatment for cancer and the like. The bald facts are that 75% of covid deaths were people over 80 who already had multiple serious chronic health conditions ( co-morbidity ) that could kill them at any time, and over 90% of deaths occurred in over 60 demographic. Average age of a covid death in UK was 82, which is roughly the same as our expected average lifespan.
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