The Covid19 thread

[SV650rules]

Originally Posted by DJ123

not really. Pretty much everyone was saying to lockdown earlier than they did . . . . . .

But they did not have responsibility for the rest of important things like jobs, food supplies and the economy etc. The problem with this country is that everyone who really knows how to run things is either a passenger in, or the driver of a taxi. Nobody knows what would have happened with earlier lockdowns, it is all speculation. In March 2020 a WHO spokesman said UK would be badly affected by virus because the NHS was so good at keeping elderly, chronically ill patients with multiple conditions alive, and they were the ones who were in the crosshairs of the virus.

[Biker Biggles]

Dont worry. This is just a parliamentary committee report that castigates the government response to covid. We will be getting a full public enquiry shortly and the terms of reference/chair of that will be set by the government. A more Boris friendly result will be assured.

[DJ123]

Originally Posted by SV650rules

What will happen when it is found that lockdowns actually caused more deaths than the virus, and amongst younger people who did not get proper diagnosis and treatment for cancer and the like. The bald facts are that 75% of covid deaths were people over 80 who already had multiple serious chronic health conditions ( co-morbidity ) that could kill them at any time, and over 90% of deaths occurred in over 60 demographic. Average age of a covid death in UK was 82, which is roughly the same as our expected average lifespan.

Potentially, it might do that over a longer time period. But an earlier lock down to protect the vulnerable & to slow the spread should have been able to allow important medical appointments to continue. Instead the NHS had to focus the majority of resources on Covid, which had been allowed to spread more freely due to the lateness of lockdown and lack of critical safety information (social distancing & face masks) being brought in too late.
Even Trump had the foresight to try and close the borders when this news first reared its head . . . .

[Seeker]

Originally Posted by SV650rules

The problem with this country is that...

...we have elected a corrupt, unethical, inept government who are far too eager to divert funds to their donors, don't obey their own rules and make one blunder after another then blame everyone except themselves.

Our glorious leader takes a holiday everytime there's bad news or, as in the early days of the pandemic, didn't bother showing up for the SAGE meetings. Perhaps if he kept his pants on and stopped chasing potential mistresses, we might get a better leader.

Speculation that other medical conditions caused just as many deaths as the virus is just that: speculation and is akin to "whataboutism". The facts as we currently know them are that we, as a country, have done a poor job in handling the pandemic but one common refrain from this (and still continues) is dithering. The inability and/or reluctance to make a decision because half of the damn Tories pull one way and the half pull the other - we saw it with Brexit, we see it with the pandemic response.

They are pathetic at doing anything except feathering their own nests. Would another party have done better, who knows? What we have is the Tories and they did a lousy job. (by their own MP's comments).

Rant over.

[admin]

Originally Posted by Seeker

...we have elected a corrupt, unethical, inept government who are far too eager to divert funds to their donors, don't obey their own rules and make one blunder after another then blame everyone except themselves.

Our glorious leader takes a holiday everytime there's bad news or, as in the early days of the pandemic, didn't bother showing up for the SAGE meetings. Perhaps if he kept his pants on and stopped chasing potential mistresses, we might get a better leader.

Speculation that other medical conditions caused just as many deaths as the virus is just that: speculation and is akin to "whataboutism". The facts as we currently know them are that we, as a country, have done a poor job in handling the pandemic but one common refrain from this (and still continues) is dithering. The inability and/or reluctance to make a decision because half of the damn Tories pull one way and the half pull the other - we saw it with Brexit, we see it with the pandemic response.

They are pathetic at doing anything except feathering their own nests. Would another party have done better, who knows? What we have is the Tories and they did a lousy job. (by their own MP's comments).

Rant over.

Couldn't put it better myself.

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[svenrico]

Originally Posted by Seeker

...we have elected a corrupt, unethical, inept government who are far too eager to divert funds to their donors, don't obey their own rules and make one blunder after another then blame everyone except themselves.

Our glorious leader takes a holiday everytime there's bad news or, as in the early days of the pandemic, didn't bother showing up for the SAGE meetings. Perhaps if he kept his pants on and stopped chasing potential mistresses, we might get a better leader.

Speculation that other medical conditions caused just as many deaths as the virus is just that: speculation and is akin to "whataboutism". The facts as we currently know them are that we, as a country, have done a poor job in handling the pandemic but one common refrain from this (and still continues) is dithering. The inability and/or reluctance to make a decision because half of the damn Tories pull one way and the half pull the other - we saw it with Brexit, we see it with the pandemic response.

They are pathetic at doing anything except feathering their own nests. Would another party have done better, who knows? What we have is the Tories and they did a lousy job. (by their own MP's comments).

Rant over.

Hear, hear.

[garynortheast]

Originally Posted by Seeker

...we have elected a corrupt, unethical, inept government who are far too eager to divert funds to their donors, don't obey their own rules and make one blunder after another then blame everyone except themselves.

Our glorious leader takes a holiday everytime there's bad news or, as in the early days of the pandemic, didn't bother showing up for the SAGE meetings. Perhaps if he kept his pants on and stopped chasing potential mistresses, we might get a better leader.

Speculation that other medical conditions caused just as many deaths as the virus is just that: speculation and is akin to "whataboutism". The facts as we currently know them are that we, as a country, have done a poor job in handling the pandemic but one common refrain from this (and still continues) is dithering. The inability and/or reluctance to make a decision because half of the damn Tories pull one way and the half pull the other - we saw it with Brexit, we see it with the pandemic response.

They are pathetic at doing anything except feathering their own nests. Would another party have done better, who knows? What we have is the Tories and they did a lousy job. (by their own MP's comments).

Rant over.

A perfect summary.

Adherence to unpleasant ideologies has the alarming ability to render some people blind to the reality of situations and facts.

[DJ123]

You mean like the UN hiring Matt Hancock as the being appointed as a special envoy to help Africa's recovery from Covid . . . .

Essentially the person responsible for the health of those in the UK who oversaw its failure from the start and has now been voted as the single worse crisis in the UK ever.

[admin]

Originally Posted by DJ123

You mean like the UN hiring Matt Hancock as the being appointed as a special envoy to help Africa's recovery from Covid . . . .

Essentially the person responsible for the health of those in the UK who oversaw its failure from the start and has now been voted as the single worse crisis in the UK ever.

Unbelievable isn't it.

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[DJ123]

It simply shows no one at that higher level in the world really gives a to$$ about mere mortals. If that record of all his failures and deaths he caused the last 18 months is rewarded like that, then God help us with what BoJo gets employed to do next!

If that happened under an NHS, or private medical board he would be in Jail and charged for what happened. Instead it's noted on record and we all move on like it never happened.