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Old 17-08-18, 09:20 PM   #1
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I know I don't have an SV any more, so mod's please move this elsewhere if need be. but my I bent my key in my 2004 cbr600rr's fuel tank whilst filling up.... and I've been quoted what I consider to be a ridiculous amount by my local 'stealer' it has Honda's HISS system so they say even if I get a key cut somewhere else it still won't work because of the programming or something or other. is this correct? is there anyway around this?


thanks for any help and advice.
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Old 17-08-18, 11:56 PM   #2
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yes the new key needs programmed. this can sometimes be done via the ignition but usually requires a machine. sometimes there are removable transponder chips on the key fob.
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Old 18-08-18, 08:24 AM   #3
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yes the new key needs programmed. this can sometimes be done via the ignition but usually requires a machine. sometimes there are removable transponder chips on the key fob.
Thanks bibio, looks like I will have to swallow this one and take the pain from the thieving bar stewards! 😡
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Old 18-08-18, 09:04 AM   #4
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Default Re: broken key

I had similar with getting a Spare car key cut.Luckily my MOT guy knew a small local non dealer garage that made one for 60 compared with over 150 elsewhere.

Ring some local small independent bike garages/shops and see if they know anything.

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Old 18-08-18, 09:18 AM   #5
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If the chip isnt transferrable you could fix the old key (minus the metal bit of course) somewhere hidden on the bike and, assuming its a standard type, just get a new key cut. You would lose the security afforded by the transponder but, if you get several cut, need never worry about the problems of losing the key......
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Old 18-08-18, 09:32 AM   #6
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Or just put the remains of the old key on the ring with the new key?
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Old 18-08-18, 09:56 AM   #7
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Dealer is wrong.

All you need to do is get the right key blank, get it cut and transfer the transponder.

Total cost probably under 15.

I really get cheesed off with dealerso knowingly(more than probable) trying to fleece folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk21gcxxcCs

Don't forget to glue the cover after transfering(as mentioned in vid) transponder.
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Dealer is wrong.

All you need to do is get the right key blank, get it cut and transfer the transponder.

Total cost probably under 15.

I really get cheesed off with dealerso knowingly(more than probable) trying to fleece folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk21gcxxcCs

Don't forget to glue the cover after transfering(as mentioned in vid) transponder.
Brilliant!

Thanks for that
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Old 26-08-18, 10:34 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by 21QUEST View Post
Dealer is wrong.

All you need to do is get the right key blank, get it cut and transfer the transponder.

Total cost probably under 15.

I really get cheesed off with dealerso knowingly(more than probable) trying to fleece folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk21gcxxcCs

Don't forget to glue the cover after transfering(as mentioned in vid) transponder.


thank you kindly for that! now, will my stealer sell me just a blank uncut key?
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Old 26-08-18, 10:53 PM   #10
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Dealer is wrong.

All you need to do is get the right key blank, get it cut and transfer the transponder.

Total cost probably under 15.

I really get cheesed off with dealerso knowingly(more than probable) trying to fleece folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk21gcxxcCs

Don't forget to glue the cover after transfering(as mentioned in vid) transponder.


I have also just tried this technique of removing said chip from the key and the "chip" itself has broken a little bit. do you know if this will affect it's then being put into a bank key?
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