Shabby Riding, piece of mind. Nice outcome.

Didnt post this last night cos I was knackered

Last night I was out on way to missus's and pulled up at M1 J15 roundabout to head down to my missus's, I hear a bike, next thing a VFR400 has filtered past me infront of me. Fair enough, leave him to it. He pulls off and the road is a long straight one, the idiot tucks in like a GP racer Then the double whites, nope don't bother him, I made all but one overtakes to watch him and his riding where i crossed a solid white line. That was in standing traffic. When he was waiting to make an overtake, he was no more than 6 feet away from the rear of the cars. His cornering was ****e, he was slowing cars up for cornering, he'd make a stupid risky overtake before a corner and then slow right up. I decided on one bend that I had had enough, saw the bend from a much better angle than he obviously did and went under him on the other side of the road, I hear a horn beep, his arms are flailling in anger motions. Now I made the overtake for 2 reasons, his riding was appalling and I didnt feel safe riding his way! I take the next few bends and take the second turning for the missus's village, halfway up the road pootling now, there he is, a distant spot in my mirror. I decide to pull over at the pub and see where he's off to, turns out he is coming to give me an earful.

Him "what the f*%k was up with that overtake mate?"
Me "nothing mate, how far were you looking up the road to see that it was harmless"
Him "far enough to see it was stupid, you never overtake on the isnside!"
Me "not my ruling, the way I see it mate, your riding was shabby and a danger to yourself and other road users, your overtakes were at a risk before you did them, what if the cars you are following stopped quickly, where would you have been left? Your riding was illegal in several spots, I mean yes we're all saints that ride bikes, but you mate were taking the ****! That was why I made the overtake"
Him "You were going too quick round the corners!"
Me - Just a baffled look, "I'm on a restricted bike mate, I can't go any quicker than you I would say, and you were Mr safe round all of them corners holding cars up weren't you"
Him "I enjoy my riding"
Me "You may enjoy it my friend, but it is at risk to yourself and others, I seriously suggest you go and do some sort of advanced training."

On that note I put my helmet on and the bloke said to me in a sort of crying out for help voice "I can't afford things like that, people tell me practice makes perfect"
Which actually made me think of advice that is given on here sometimes, maybe I was too hard on the guy, too critisisive of him, I was at that point possibly at some point.
"Phone number? Where you live?"
Gave me his details.
"I'll see you tomorrow night at Sixfields stadium, 7 o'clock."
"Thanks mate" was his reply.

Did I react wrongly or was I correct in my advice/slating to him?

Constructive criticism and an offer to help-----------------------------your a saint

you might have scared him going up the inside, hence why he felt bad. Personally, as long as someonesits behind me enough for me to notice them in my mirrors, I dont mind where they overtake so long as its safe.

You did the right thing for you by getting ahead; i always get ahead and put distance between myself and road users I feel are a bit poo if I can, or i'll drop right back. So long as I don;t get involved in their accident (if they have one).

Matt

You're gonna meet up for a ruck???????

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by plowsie

too critisisive of him

Wow - and you invent new words too - or did you hear that one on Jeremy Kyle ?????

"too critical" would have been correct.

Not sure I agree with your decision to overtake, and his reaction seems to have been from the fact you made him cack himself as you overtook.

However you recovered it very well by offering to have a chat/give pointers.

Hope you are both happy together on your date

[Paul the 6th]

quality.

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Wow - and you invent new words too - or did you hear that one on Jeremy Kyle ?????

"too critical" would have been correct. Was struggling to find the right word there lol

Not sure I agree with your decision to overtake, and his reaction seems to have been from the fact you made him cack himself as you overtook. I didn't think there was much up with it, it was a piece of road that you could see very nicely up to make a clean overtake, there was no way that he was going to be overtaking as it was clear road infront

However you recovered it very well by offering to have a chat/give pointers.

Hope you are both happy together on your date

Thanks David, would you like a doggy bag?

Originally Posted by Kinvig

You're gonna meet up for a ruck???????

my money is on jeremy kyle personally

[SoulKiss]

I was referring to the fact that in his world based on his theory of motorcycling, people dont do what you did - its the "unpredictibility" that got to him, not danger

Do you mean you undertook him on a bend? Not sure thats advisable in case he had suddenly panicked (as he did sound to be doing on the bends) and pulled back to the left while you were there.

Sounds like he could do with some help but have you got the skills/qualifications/experience to advise him? (apologies if you have and Ive misinterpreted) Ive had plenty of advanced training but still wouldnt want to take it on myself to try and advise anyone.

Perhaps meet up with him anyway and direct him to a local advanced training group?

Good on you for being concerned though