Has Anyone Used Ipone R4000 RS Engine oil

I am going to do an oil change before we go off to the isle of man at the end of August.

I can get a good deal on Ipone R4000 RS oil. Has anyone ever used it.

Please comment on your experiences.

Cheers in advance.

Originally Posted by andyharding

I am going to do an oil change before we go off to the isle of man at the end of August.

I can get a good deal on Ipone R4000 RS oil. Has anyone ever used it.

Please comment on your experiences.

Cheers in advance.

Ive been buying some cheap 10w40 from Wilkinsons Hardware £10.00 for 5L. Seems OK.

as long as its the right weight / viscosity and semi synthetic, i wouldnt worry about it. I had halfords own carp in my bike when i first brought it, and now use castrol...there is no differance in how my bike performs using differant brands, it seems

Matt

[jambo]

Not a massively well known consumer brand (certainly not one I'd heard of) but this just means good information on it is hard to find, rather than meaning it's a bad product. The product seems to be fully synthetic which may or may not be overkill for the SV depending on your point of view.

The most important thing is that it is a 10w 40 oil that meets API SF rating or higher. I'm currently using Halfords semi synthetic in my ZX6R and reading the spec on the back of it, whoever actually makes it (and then sells it to Halfords) makes it to meet API SH (which surpasses SF, and SG). So it's not bad stuff.

Just about any semi or fully synthetic motorcycle oil will be fine, the SV's not terribly fussy.

HTH
Jambo

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by jambo

The product seems to be fully synthetic which may or may not be overkill for the SV depending on your point of view.

My quick delve into google land says it is a semi synth. Otherwise assuming it meets the standards it claims it should be fine for an SV.

Originally Posted by startrek.steve

Ive been buying some cheap 10w40 from Wilkinsons Hardware £10.00 for 5L. Seems OK.

Is it a motorcycle oil?. Car oils have friction inhibitors that can damage wet clutches

Originally Posted by timwilky

My quick delve into google land says it is a semi synth. Otherwise assuming it meets the standards it claims it should be fine for an SV.




Is it a motorcycle oil?. Car oils have friction inhibitors that can damage wet clutches

This is it...

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0257972

Whats better? Mineral based or Semi-Mineral based?

Steve

As long as it is 10w40 and designed for motorbikes then you will be ok, there is no real differences between the engine oil brands!

[jambo]

Originally Posted by startrek.steve

This is it...

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0257972

Whats better? Mineral based or Semi-Mineral based?

Steve

Roughly the order from cheapest to best goes:

Mineral (Mineral Based)
Semi Synthetic (Mineral based)
Fully Synthetic (Not mineral based)

I say roughly because a good quality oil of one type can exceed the standards met by a cheaper oil of the next type up.

The oil you are using is probably a car oil. I would really prefer this thread didn't turn into a heated debate about whether you can use car oil in bikes. The bottom line is that you can, but it can cause probelms with a wet clutch as Tim pointed out above, and motorcycle specific oil is designed to withstand use as a gearbox oil as well, where as cars use a seperate oil type for this.

There was an article in "Bike!" last year about a courier who got about 400,000 miles out of most of his bikes and used a cheap car oil, but then he would have had very few cold starts. It's all rather hard to quantify, so I just buy a cheapish semi synthetic motorcycle specific oil that's 10w40 and meets API SG or higher for my bike.

There you go, clear as mud innit?

Jambo

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by startrek.steve

This is it...

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0257972

Whats better? Mineral based or Semi-Mineral based?

Steve

I am not an expert, but I would suggest you stop using that and hope your clutch has not been damaged. It looks like a mineral oil for "older" cars that don't require advanced oils.

The SV spec is API grade SF or SG. which is quite an old/low spec dating from the late 80s. However, the semi synths and full synth have better qualities in terms of film shear, life, cold start lubrication etc.

[21QUEST]

If you fancy reading some more....yeah, been checking up on the stuff

http://www.acea.be/images/uploads/pu..._LD_and_HD.pdf

http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html

http://vmaxoutlaw.com/tech/motorcycle_oil.htm



Ben