Adoption, abortion and IVF: Discuss

Trying to keep Paws thread from being derailed, but it looked like an interesting chat so thought I'd start this. My opinions? Pro choice, anti IVF (we're overpopulated already, and there's loads of unwanted kids. If you want one get one of them!) and therefore pro adoption.

What's your views?

Original thread here: http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=114085&page=5

One sec, I'll bring my post over

ok, here i go again:

There is sometimes justified cause for abortion. Yes, it does mean that you end a life; but I would rather not bring a child into the world where it will not be loved, will suffer cruelty, will not be able to be looked after properly. This dosn't mean that unborn children with pre-diagnosed problems (i.e. downs syndrome etc) should be automaticaly aborted, because they can still be given a good quality of life and be loved.

I'm not very good at arguing my point, but I believe that under certain curcumstances abortion is a viable option.

But it is a very serious option, and giving your child up for adoption is a better idea, but like bear said, that dosn't garuntee they'll be taken in by a loving family, and having read some books about things like that, kids seem to get passed around form foster home to foster home

I'll go away now

IVF should have an upper age limit i think say 40. and I am pro Abortion.

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

...under certain curcumstances abortion ..

...that dosn't garuntee they'll be taken in by a loving family,...

Spot the scientist (I'm in the same boat; don't worry )

Personally; you should be completely free to do what you want. People should be taught to be responsible rather than laws coming in to control childbirth. Once that level of control comes in, even Orwell would express his surprise.

Originally Posted by neio79

IVF should have an upper age limit i think say 40. and I am pro Abortion.

Do you mean pro choice?

40 really - i am nearly 40 my doctor won't let me go the IVF route yet she wants me to wait a while longer - i think 40 is too low an age for the limit of IVF, thats my personal opinion i know people that have been trying for years and its happened naturally for them after 10 years and 3 years of IVF.

I'm not pro-abortion or anti abortion

Originally Posted by neio79

IVF should have an upper age limit i think say 40. and I am pro Abortion.

Well, maybe higher - women can natrully conceive until they are about 50-55? Something like that. It should be offered to those people who would be able of natrully conceiving given their age, but cannot due to whatever problem prevents them from doing so.

Matt

Originally Posted by Bear

Do you mean pro choice?

yeah!!

I also se an argument for given the woman the choice for aborting if the kid is going to be severly physically or mentaly disabled or both. I mean what sort of life would it have or the parents from that point on??

IVF should only be available privately IMO. The NHS is barely able to adequately deal with the necessities of saving lives and aleviating suffering (which is what it was set up for), without it being additionally burdened with having to provide luxuries. I am definately pro-adoption.