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Old 13-03-09, 11:35 AM   #1
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Ok so that Labour Peer that got jailed, well he served 16 days and was then let out.....

So how in any possible way can justices have taken place? People get more time in prison for shoplifting, for FFS. One rule for them, eh?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/7939988.stm
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Old 13-03-09, 11:43 AM   #2
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Default Re: 16 Days for Death by Dangerous driving

Read the article, he was NEVER accused of causing death by dangerous driving. He was convicted of dangerous driving after admitting sending texts while driving earlier, several minutes before the crash. He was not criminally responsible for the death of the other driver.

If there had not been a crashed car in lane 3 he would have not had an accident and therefore never investigated. The police would never have known he was texting while driving.





Now whether 16 days for dangerous driving while texting is fair compared with 6 months for the 122mph speeding biker is an entirely different debate.
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Old 13-03-09, 11:45 AM   #3
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That’s f***in stupid where is the justice these days the word has gone all t**s up
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Old 13-03-09, 11:54 AM   #4
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His early release was political and justice has yet again played second fiddle to a corrupt and incompetent governments whims.
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Old 13-03-09, 12:03 PM   #5
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This guy gets to walk free, after someone loses a loved one, just not right.
Again wrong. It was dark, the guy killed had already crashed into the central reservation and was stood in the carriageway. The Dangerous Driving charge was in no way related to the accident in which this person was killed, but the accident investigations found that Lord Ahmed had been texting on his phone sometime prior to the accident, so he was charged for that.
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Old 13-03-09, 12:03 PM   #6
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His early release was political and justice has yet again played second fiddle to a corrupt and incompetent governments whims.
Totally agree.
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Old 13-03-09, 12:07 PM   #7
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Seriously, read what Lucky has written - he was never charged with anything to do with the death of the other guy - the other guy who had crashed prior to the event and was stationary in the fast lane of the motorway.

The *only* thing he was charged with was dangerous driving for texting - in no way was this tied to the death of the other driver.

Now, if you want to go for the "one rule for them another for us" line then sure that's a bandwagon I typically support - but I also like to win my arguments and there are better examples than this to use in support of that argument.

It could be argued that 12 days in prison for texting whilst driving is lenient, but I suspect there are also significant swathes of the population who "get off" with points and fine too, so perhaps it could also be looked upon as harsh.
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So a guy gets 6 months for doing 122mph on a motorcycle.

And he gets a few days?

If he hadn't of text, he'd have seen the car facing him with headlights on after the accident?????????


Sickening....
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Old 13-03-09, 01:09 PM   #9
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So a guy gets 6 months for doing 122mph on a motorcycle.

And he gets a few days?
That for me is what boils my blood. I really hate the inconsistent sentencing policy.

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If he hadn't of text, he'd have seen the car facing him with headlights on after the accident?????????


Sickening....
Sigh! He was not texting at the time of the accident or immediately prior to it. He was texting several minutes before, which at motorway speeds means several miles before. He was done for the texting.
Do you really think that a car that had hit the central reserve and spun would still have lights left to be shining down the road?
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Old 13-03-09, 01:20 PM   #10
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Wow......even if you really trust a person that tells a story, go and research it yourself before you build an opinion because, as with the original post, the information is not always correct.

Bluethunder, I do see why you are mad about this, the Portugese lorry driver that got 3 years for wiping out a family of six will only spend 1 year 27 days in jail...that is wrong.

With this case though, listen to Luckypants. If you hit the central reservation at motorway speeds, your lights will not be shining down the road.

Lord Ahmed was sentenced for the use of his mobile for texting several minutes before the accident so it was a totally seperate incident.

I feel for the guy. I think he's an idiot for using his phone while driving, but he wasn't at the time of the accident. Instead, he was travelling down a motorway at night, not using his phone ans hit a man that was in the carriageway. He was not found to be in any way to blame for that incident and so we should not condemn him for it. All I feel for him because he's going to remember that night forever and regardless of him not being at fault for the death, he's never going to forget it. I think that's worse than 16 days in jail!
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