Bikers are bad?

I've decided to post this thread rather than derail the one about the Welsh Protest Ride.

How many of us, as bikers, actually ride within the law?

I know that I'm guilty of doing stuff that I shouldn't. Most of us seem to have some disregard for the law and the rules of the road. I don't think I've ever come across a biker who always rides within the law. We are, essentially our own worst enemy, and police/government action is a result of our actions.

Yes, there are a minority of absolute lunatic bikers out there, but the rest of us are not entirely blameless.

I think that the majority of us could easily lose our licences if the police were in the right place at the right time.

Please discuss!

I would love to meet one road user who has never broken the law!

[Mr Speirs]

Becareful what you admit to doing on a public forum, it may come back and bite you in the ass one day.

I break the law every single time I ride I think.

Do I feel bad? No.

If I got caught it would be fair cop guv'nor. The trick is to do it when it's appropriate.

Originally Posted by Mr Speirs

Becareful what you admit to doing on a public forum, it may come back and bite you in the ass one day.

Tee hee.

Okay, I did 552 miles an hour this morning.

Uh oh, here come the plod!

[Luckypants]

Well I agree, but I could also say that about drivers of other vehicles. I think driving standards are slipping and so many people are selective about which laws they comply with.

I do ride outside the law by treating NSL roads with my own judgement rather than sticking to 60, the only proviso being I try to keep it down below licence losing speed if I was clocked.

Speed aside, I try to ride / drive to the letter and spirit of the law. I know some have been frustrated by my adherence to 30s and 40s (and most 50s) or complete refusal to overtake on solid whites (Tractors etc excepted). Many, many other bikers I know have a similar attitude, they take their riding seriously and so try to ride to a good standard.

Again, I could apply the above paragraph to most sports car drivers who are also enthusiasts. But we as bikers would point the finger at some idiot in a sports car, as they would at a loony biker.

I'm saying that in any group there are idiots that tarnish the rest of the group. With bikers, there is already an element of the 'rebel without a cause' or 'rocker' perception with non-bikers, so it don't take much to be tarnished as bad boys...

Im with DanAbnormal, everyone speeds at times. Even my mom has been knowen to, and she is the worlds slowest/most cautious driver.
some bikers are wreckles and speed past schools and make dangerous overtakes when they should sit back and relax, and those are the problem people. Not the people enjoying the empty country roads.
speed when it makes sence, not everywhere.

i for one tend to stick to 30 speeds

Stick to 30's. 40's, and 50's usually, so do the group I ride with.

NSL is you're own judgement.

TBH, yes, at some point most bikers will have done some silly overtake, or thought "hmmm, i wonder how fast it goes flat out". Maybe some of us have exceede the magic licence loosing ton (I am admitting to nothing ) . Like Dan says, if you do it on a busy road with loasd of people watching you are gonna p*ss them off. I wouldn't bother having a bike on the road if I was gonna pootle round at the speed limit as lets face it, its F'in boaring. I do know when to ride like a tit and when to just relax and take it easy - hence a clean licence. Many car drivers also have a blatant dis-regard for speed limits, particularly on the motorway. Its the people that actually have accidents who cause the issus as the police and government need to appear to be reducing casualties on the road and hence a campaign against speeding drivers is a good way of convincing the public you are doing something. Whether it works is another matter completely. so, if we all stop crashing...

Muppets in chaved up Corsa's are far worse than any bike rider. They are also more likely to kill their schoolgirl passengers but they are not victimised like bike riders are. If the police treated all road users the same then we wouldnt be able to claim discrimination. IE:- The boys in blue in North Wales. I believe we could all possibly commit a motoring offence at some time but i for one have NEVER EVER broken the law ever your honour. HONEST!!!