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Old 21-03-12, 01:04 PM   #1
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Default Any traffic police on here?

I was approaching a set of traffic lights with 3 lanes.
Left and middle lane arrowed for forward travel only.
Right hand lane arrowed for right turn only.

I am travelling in the left hand lane.
I can see that the lights are red.
No vehicles in the left lane.
Around 6 vehicles in the middle lane.
1 vehicle in the right lane.

I stay in the left lane, slow to around 15mph and the lights change to green.

I roll on the throttle and continue forward in the left lane passing the stationary vehicles in the middle lane.

Up ahead the two forward travel lanes merge into one.

Another 200 meters up the road a woman pulls out of a filling station and knocks me off my bike breaking two bones.

Question 1: Was the manouver at the lights an illegal undertake?

Question 2: Does that take away from the fact she pulled into my right of way a lot further up the road?

Question 3: If the answer to question 1 is that is was illegal then should I join the middle lane and drive in the incorrect lane like the other drivers? Is that the official view?
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Old 21-03-12, 01:12 PM   #2
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Q1: No
Q2: No, She should have looked as the view of you was not obscured by another vehicle
Q3: Needs no answer

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Old 21-03-12, 01:13 PM   #3
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As above.
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Old 21-03-12, 01:18 PM   #4
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were you undertaking the stationary vehicles after the merge or was the way clear?
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Old 21-03-12, 01:47 PM   #5
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Q1: No
Q2: No, She should have looked as the view of you was not obscured by another vehicle
Q3: Needs no answer

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Old 21-03-12, 01:57 PM   #6
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retired trafpol - as Bluepete etc. Sorry to hear about the off - really unlucky considering my lad's recent escapade. Get well soon.
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Old 21-03-12, 02:14 PM   #7
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To undertake you must change lanes.

Driving with the flow of traffic in your lane does not include an undertake as far as I am aware.
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Old 21-03-12, 02:17 PM   #8
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Q1: No
Q2: No, She should have looked as the view of you was not obscured by another vehicle
Q3: Needs no answer

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Old 21-03-12, 02:25 PM   #9
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My take-----
Your manoevre at the traffic lights was not an undertake but it doesnt matter anyway as 200 yards later someone pulled out on you and knocked you off.That is the relevant fact,not what happened 200 yards away.

A mate of mine was knocked off his bike by a car driving aggressively because he had allegedly been "cut up" by said mate at a junction several hundred yards previously.This may or may not have been true,but the police threw the book at the car driver and discounted anything else as heresay and not relevant to the act of dangerous driving.
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Old 21-03-12, 06:49 PM   #10
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Traffic police on here? Like asking if there's any SV owners
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