Honda NT650V Deauville opinions?

Thinking of selling the SV and swapping for one of the above.

I personally find the SV uncomfortable on the arms and back and am looking for something more comfortable on my 13 miles commute through town.

Does anyone have any experience with them, I have always loved Honda's, I know some of you find them boring.

Cheers

[Paul the 6th]

Apparently they're meant to be a bit gutless from what I've heard. Thought about a v-strom maybe? Similar upright tour-ish riding position but the same sv engine, or with the bigger sv1000 engine tuned down but still with bags of torque..

Just a thought

[Tomor]

I have both the sv and dl 650 and the dl seems to pull better at low revs( probably due to the way it's geared) than the sv. Nice upright position and far more comfortable than the sv. I would say have a decent test ride on and and then go and test ride a deauville ASAP so you can gauge them together. I don't think you will be disappointed in the dl.

I quite like the built in panniers on the NT means I wouldn't need to lug a bag round. Any others with built in luggage?

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[tigersaw]

Had one.
Comfy. Feels heavy. Gutless but will go on all day.
One problem I had was awful win buffeting over the windscreen at motorway speed. I believe you can get an extension to overcome that.

Originally Posted by tigersaw

Had one.
Comfy. Feels heavy. Gutless but will go on all day.
One problem I had was awful win buffeting over the windscreen at motorway speed. I believe you can get an extension to overcome that.

I very rarely use M-ways, my commute takes me through Reading town center then down the A329, rarely get above 40-50mph

I did the handle bar conversion on my sv650 and haven't looked back. Worth a thought, if you like your bike and just want a more upright position.

Deauville, somewhat bland to ride. Great weather protection in winter, Lack of air movement and heated air from engine cooks you in summer....

As for built in luggage - top box, either a proper one or do the "bolt to rear seat trick" that a number of people here have done...

[embee]

I've had an SV650S since 2001 and a 650 Deauville since 2002, so can probably give a reasonable comparison. They're chalk and cheese.

SV is lively, fun, reasonably lightweight, can do long distances but not it's strength.

Deau is sedate, sliced white-bread, a bit porky, comfy, very easy to ride, light controls (clutch etc), handles surprisingly well considering, linked Nissin brakes are quite decent, very good weather protection with a high screen fitted, will go all day and night then the next day.

Fuel economy on both depends how heavy handed you are, but quite similar in real life. Mid fifties usually, I get just into 60's on the Deau when holiday touring at speed limits.

Deau engine is near bomb proof, I know a courier on his 3rd 650, gets 150k miles before they start to get really too scruffy so he gets another one.

Some changes over time, 98-02 had Brembo brakes, useless headlight, small panniers. 02-06 had linked Nissin brakes (not quite as sharp but equally effective), slightly lighter engine internals, slightly better headlight, slightly bigger panniers.

The "700" (680) from 06 onwards is 4-valve FI, 650 was 3-valve-twin-plug and carbs. 700 significantly more torque (+20%), a little more power. 700 panniers got a linked "baguette" hole. All models have screw adjuster valve clearances, rarely need attention, 20-30k miles typically.

Only common issue with 650 is fuel pump, but easily fixed (new points or fit Facet replacement). A few 700's have suffered terminal wear of rear wheel drive splines (faulty spacer and no lube of splines, but not a common issue) and plug caps leaking sparks is not uncommon.

Paint suffers on engine cases and wheels to some extent, particularly those used all year round. Silver smooth Hammerite is favourite fix.
650 water pump cases can crack where exposed to salt/crud, easily seen and easy fix if a little costly (£60-ish).

If you view a Deau as a workhorse to do the job it was made for, then it delivers. Not exactly fun though. I like it. Excellent light tourer or commuter.

Plenty of info on http://www.deauvilleuk.org/forum/index.php
Does what it says on the tin. Look at it, that's what it does.

Brilliant comparison, that's all I want is a reliable commuter. The SV ain't it I'm afraid. Its to uncomfy.

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