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Old 21-03-15, 12:06 PM   #1
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To legalise or not to legalise?


There are no recorded deaths, it's less harmful than alcohol and could help the economy.



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Old 21-03-15, 12:49 PM   #2
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the big telling tale will be the USA as there are so many states legalising it that the federal might have to do the same. once that happens then you might see a change in the law over here. dont hold your breath though.

my personal view is that they should legalise all drugs but still keep them as controlled substances. people are going to do what people do and the law does not deter them from doing it. the big problem is that a lot of people will loose their job as the proceeds of drugs go towards keeping the enforcers in a job.
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Old 21-03-15, 01:02 PM   #3
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If it is legalised it will need to be monitored, and legislation put in place to control quality. Just look at e-cigs, Joe Bloggs can make the liquids in his bedroom with god knows what in it.
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Surely that's a good thing? It's currently unregulated and to use your own words it could have god knows what in it.


It's my belief that if legalised, people wouldn't be exposed to dealers who may wish to push harder substances. People will do what they want regardless of law, but giving a legal alternative may remove their need to look elsewhere for a kick.
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Old 21-03-15, 01:16 PM   #5
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put it this way. i would not touch cannabis resin with a barge pole these days.

i stopped taking recreational drugs when i was 25 for the simple fact that the even back then the quality was getting bad.
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Old 21-03-15, 01:24 PM   #6
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My point exactly. Regulation and quality control is key.

Not to mention the jobs it could create and the farmers who'd benefit. The government could tax it similarly to tobacco and alcohol and generate millions in revenue. There would also be less imprisonment for cannabis users saving £40k per year per inmate!

Weed isn't harmless but it's harmful effects pale in comparison to alcohol.

I don't agree with other drugs such as MDMA, cocaine and heroin as they can really f*ck sh*t up. They are also cut with seriously harmful substances like rat poison to make the product go further.
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thing is Matt, if you legalise all drugs then as you say you can regulate it. its the shady back street dealers that are responsible for getting people hooked in the first place. if you take that away then there would be a loooooot less people turning to harder substances as they would be readily available. taking harder drugs once in a blue moon does not make you an addict. i think you would be surprised as to just how many people in high society take heroin never mind Columbian marching powder.
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To legalise or not to legalise?


There are no recorded deaths, it's less harmful than alcohol and could help the economy.



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So who picks up the bill for all the mental issues it causes? the NHS?
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Doesn't it do that already?
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ahhh the old mental health argument, that was the exact excuse that got it criminalised in the first place. you would have to be susceptible to mental health issues in the first place and even then most would have ended up with problems without the drugs. but because of the way it was worded in the study the Dr (Potts i think it was) was told to read and only read one part of the sentience, he complained about this but was made to do so in court. the original study concluded that it would be no worse than alcohol abuse.

the big problem is that there are so many people taking recreational drugs these days its hard to tell who would have had the mental health issues to begin with.

there are a lot of people in mental health institutes that have never taken drugs in their life.

two of the biggest drains on the NHS is tobacco and alcohol related but they are legal.
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