clutchless downshifts ????? - SV650.org

pegasus · 26-01-05, 07:09 AM

bit of advice please.

do any of you nice folks shift down without the clutch? i've done it a few times purposely to see how it is..the gearbox sounds ok and the bike shifts fine but im wondering :-

1. how much damage am i causing
2. should i be doing it in the 1st place

any advice appreciated thanx.

26-01-05, 07:33 AM

I can do it, but I don't. Blipping the throttle is faster.

As long as you're not forcing the lever, I understand it won't do any damage at all.

26-01-05, 07:34 AM

I imagine it would shorten the useful life of the tranny and associated parts. Is it really that time consuming to 2 finger the clutch ?

pegasus · 26-01-05, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Junior

I imagine it would shorten the useful life of the tranny and associated parts. Is it really that time consuming to 2 finger the clutch ?

not at all ...im a blipper as well..but i was just curious
thanx for the reply

26-01-05, 08:46 AM

just a quicky in regardes to downshifting why can you go down as many gears as you like in one go but you cant skip gears going up. ie from 2nd to 4th with out it sounding like the gears are going to explode ive only done it once and it really didnt seem to like it so ive never done it again.

pegasus · 26-01-05, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ReLoAd

just a quicky in regardes to downshifting why can you go down as many gears as you like in one go but you cant skip gears going up. ie from 2nd to 4th with out it sounding like the gears are going to explode ive only done it once and it really didnt seem to like it so ive never done it again.

im guessing ...its something to do with the sequential run off the gears.
i.e it might seem as if your going from 4th to 2nd but the box is actually going 4.3.2 running through the gears sequentially. going upwards is a different matter each gear has to be selected and running before the next gear can be selected..

i think

26-01-05, 09:29 AM

I've read that clutchless downshifting really isn't recomended. I'm not sure why you'd want to do it either. Clutchless upshifting is great for accelerating hard, but if you're going down the gears you should do it properly.

I've never had a problem skipping a gear on the way up (e.g 2nd to 4th). I'll do that if it's a lowish speed limit and I want to accelerate quickly up to the limit and then cruise at 40mph (or whatever).

26-01-05, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wyrdness

I'm not sure why you'd want to do it either.

Agreed- I understand (and occassionally do) clutchless upshift. I can't see the point of clutchless downshifting. Surely even if you blipped the throttle, you'd have to be very precise with the amount of throttle, to avoid sudden engine braking.

26-01-05, 10:20 AM

I can certainly downshift without the clutch and still blip the throttle, you've just got to be ultra-precise. Is there any point to it? Not really 'though it's handy when I'm on the mobile...

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pegasus · 26-01-05, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jonboy

I can certainly downshift without the clutch and still blip the throttle, you've just got to be ultra-precise. Is there any point to it? Not really 'though it's handy when I'm on the mobile...

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26-01-05, 07:09 AM	#1
pegasus Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,122	clutchless downshifts ????? bit of advice please. do any of you nice folks shift down without the clutch? i've done it a few times purposely to see how it is..the gearbox sounds ok and the bike shifts fine but im wondering :- 1. how much damage am i causing 2. should i be doing it in the 1st place any advice appreciated thanx. __________________ tune in, turn on, burn out

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26-01-05, 07:33 AM	#2
Flamin_Squirrel Guest Posts: n/a	I can do it, but I don't. Blipping the throttle is faster. As long as you're not forcing the lever, I understand it won't do any damage at all.

26-01-05, 07:34 AM	#3
Junior Guest Posts: n/a	I imagine it would shorten the useful life of the tranny and associated parts. Is it really that time consuming to 2 finger the clutch ?

26-01-05, 08:46 AM	#5
ReLoAd Guest Posts: n/a	just a quicky in regardes to downshifting why can you go down as many gears as you like in one go but you cant skip gears going up. ie from 2nd to 4th with out it sounding like the gears are going to explode ive only done it once and it really didnt seem to like it so ive never done it again.

26-01-05, 09:29 AM	#7
wyrdness Guest Posts: n/a	I've read that clutchless downshifting really isn't recomended. I'm not sure why you'd want to do it either. Clutchless upshifting is great for accelerating hard, but if you're going down the gears you should do it properly. I've never had a problem skipping a gear on the way up (e.g 2nd to 4th). I'll do that if it's a lowish speed limit and I want to accelerate quickly up to the limit and then cruise at 40mph (or whatever).

26-01-05, 10:20 AM	#9
jonboy Guest Posts: n/a	I can certainly downshift without the clutch and still blip the throttle, you've just got to be ultra-precise. Is there any point to it? Not really 'though it's handy when I'm on the mobile... .