now this IS proper news!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/6130296.stm

discuss....

my view? nar narny nar nar :P

I like Donald Rumsfelt

Originally Posted by Ed

I like Donald Rumsfelt

He might be a nice bloke.
But, starting a spurious and unwinnable war against a nameless faceless enemy, that you yourself previously armed, pouring your best military personnel along billions of dollars into this war, and killing huge amounts of people for no notable improvement in anything for anyone other than big oil companies has to have political consequences.

Would it not have been better PR to fire him before the elections? Not that it really matters now anyway. They achieved what they set out to do, and I'm sure Mr Rumsfeld hasn't lost any sleep over what he's done.

Originally Posted by UlsterSV

Would it not have been better PR to fire him before the elections? Not that it really matters now anyway. They achieved what they set out to do, and I'm sure Mr Rumsfeld hasn't lost any sleep over what he's done.

I am not sure.
It might have looked like a sign of weakness.
They have achieved what they set out to do though. And Rumsfeld will die a rich happy man, despite being directly responsible for the deaths of vast numbers of people. He will more than likely be very proud of his achievements.

A sort of hollow victory... but, you will take them where you can get them at this point, no?
He's gone. And the Reps are on the ropes. This is alright in my book.

Rumsfeld is a more insidious barsteward than you thought...

http://www.rense.com/general67/rum.htm

Originally Posted by Razor

Rumsfeld is a more insidious barsteward than you thought...

http://www.rense.com/general67/rum.htm

bleurgh! that stuff always left a bitter taste...

Originally Posted by philipMac

He might be a nice bloke.
But, starting a spurious and unwinnable war against a nameless faceless enemy, that you yourself previously armed, pouring your best military personnel along billions of dollars into this war, and killing huge amounts of people for no notable improvement in anything for anyone other than big oil companies has to have political consequences.

Like he did it al on his own then ???

Americans.... Only ever want to get into a fight they know they can win....

After 9/11 most Americans would have backed Bush if he declared war on the UK. It may have been wrong and it may have been stupid, but there's far to many "I told you so's" IMPO. He did as he was told to do, nothing more nothing less, and when you control the forces of the strongest super power in the world it ain't that difficult to make a **** up is it ?

I'm not defending him, just looking at it from a different perspective.

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