Punish The Deed And NOT The Breed

[21QUEST]

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Ben

I think (because i havnt gone to the linkys) you mean that the people who breed the dogs to be fighters should be prosectued, and not the dogs themselves. My mum thinks the same, and i guess its the right thing. But when the dog has been trained for a long time to be agressive etc, and becomes dangerous, theres no real alternative.

BTW, im biased, as I have a big phobia of dogs. I've only ever sat and stroked one dog in my whole entire life; the others i have run away from. I even walk the long way home to avoid a bloke th at lives near me walking his two (scary looking) alsatians.

Matt

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

I think (because i havnt gone to the linkys) you mean that the people who breed the dogs to be fighters should be prosectued, and not the dogs themselves. My mum thinks the same, and i guess its the right thing. But when the dog has been trained for a long time to be agressive etc, and becomes dangerous, theres no real alternative.

BTW, im biased, as I have a big phobia of dogs. I've only ever sat and stroked one dog in my whole entire life; the others i have run away from. I even walk the long way home to avoid a bloke th at lives near me walking his two (scary looking) alsatians.

Matt

is there a reason for your phobia? I am have a phobia of snakes (no not trouser snakes....like them! ) and there is no reason for it, I have never been near a snake or attacked by a snake! Have you been bit by a dog or is it a phobia you have always had?

I think the problem lies with a lot of people who buy these dogs and have them as some sort of crap talisman of how hard they are and don't necessarily know how to train them properly.

That said, you can be the best dog trainer in the world, but the fact is, if you **** one of these things off, it is an incredibly powerful creature. Why do you think Bull terriers are so called ?

Although I think there should be tighter controls on dogs like this, it is sad to see any animal being harmed or destroyed.

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

I think (because i havnt gone to the linkys) you mean that the people who breed the dogs to be fighters should be prosectued, and not the dogs themselves. My mum thinks the same, and i guess its the right thing. But when the dog has been trained for a long time to be agressive etc, and becomes dangerous, theres no real alternative.

BTW, im biased, as I have a big phobia of dogs. I've only ever sat and stroked one dog in my whole entire life; the others i have run away from. I even walk the long way home to avoid a bloke th at lives near me walking his two (scary looking) alsatians.

Matt

Yes people who break the law have to answer for their actions. Another problem(more pressing) are the noobs who go and buy bull breeds and all manner of crosss, teach the dogs to be aggressive do not have them sufficiantly socialised etc. The problem of peddlers is also a big concern but takes more money than Government are prepared put towards doing things right.


The law should focus making people accountable but must include all breeds. It's just pains me to see a breed I love being wrecked by the actions of a few idiots and the government taking the easy way out.

Amnesty they say? Murdering animals under a not very well thought out Act. That can't be right fif you someone indeed loves dogs.

The important thing is a lot of dogs can and have been killed under the describtion of "type". So depending on how the stars line up that day, people can loose a loving pet.

Ben

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by tricky

I think the problem lies with a lot of people who buy these dogs and have them as some sort of crap talisman of how hard they are and don't necessarily know how to train them properly.

That said, you can be the best dog trainer in the world, but the fact is, if you p*ss one of these things off, it is an incredibly powerful creature. Why do you think Bull terriers are so called ?

Although I think there should be tighter controls on dogs like this, it is sad to see any animal being harmed or destroyed.

Tricky agree with you bar just one tiny bit.

Yes Bull Terriers are extremely powerful for their weight but they are far from the devil dogs they are made out to be. Plenty of other dogs for example Mastiffs, Rottie and others bred for guarding duties are larger and less stable temperament(aggression reagrds human) than Bull Terriers. I can't see why we can't just have one set of rules for everybody rather than it being pot luck if a dog lives or not.

I fully understand that to the uninitiated they look can look scary. More so with the crappy crosses being done by peddlers in which their goal is to exaggerate head etc.


What would peeps describe this dog as? Pit Bull. Just curious




Agree with you Rubberduckof death. When bred and brought up correctly a Bull Terrier should have not be human aggressive. On the other hand they like to please their owners so someone up to no good can turn one very bad indeed.


Ben

Originally Posted by "21QUEST

What would peeps describe this dog as? Pit Bull. Just curious

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Ben

Wouldnt like to say... but shouldn't it be on a lead?















only kidding x

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

What would peeps describe this dog as? Pit Bull. Just curious



Ben

Dunno, is it a Staffie? (Staffordshire Bull Terrier) Have a little brindle bitch that looks like that comes round to see my dogs and the horse. It is great mates with the horse! Our horse chases our dogs out of the field, but allows this little dog to stay and play!

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

The law should focus making people accountable but must include all breeds. It's just pains me to see a breed I love being wrecked by the actions of a few idiots and the government taking the easy way out.

Ben

I totally agree.

I paint dog portraits for a living and have met many dogs, including those breeds in question.

I have to say I have never ever met a vicious or agressive dog whatever the breed, probably because they have all been owned by caring loving people who are responsible and dont just have the dog as an "accessory".

[northwind]

Originally Posted by rubberduckofdeath

I don't know much about the nature of these dogs when they've been brought up 'correctly', but they're very dangerous creatures when angry and aggressive. It's likely that it's the fault of the people who have brought it up, but as with all animals they're unpredictable and shouldn't be left with small children. That goes for any large dog or even smaller ones. I wouldn't like my Jack Russell to be left with small children, and she's a softy.

The exact same thing goes for humans