Mix a stock D220 front with a Z6 rear?

Well, would you?

Now I've finally set my mind on the Z6 I'm being pushed into getting a pair.

I'm not made of money you know!

[rictus01]

No you can get away with mixing brands if you have to,but away make sure the front tyre is the stickiest, if a tyre is going to ever break away you don't want it to be the front one.

So either put on an OEM rear for now and live with the performance limitations, or swap the set and keep the Dunlop front as a spare and fit a new set of Z6'S.

I'm sure the bike will feel a lot better with a new Z6 fitted to the rear and the original front, it'll corner better and feel more planted and you'll enjoy the extra grip, right up to the point of the front letting go without warning and dumping you down the road, you've been warned.

Cheers Mark.

[fizzwheel]

No I wouldnt.

Get a pair dont be a cheap skate, especially at this time of year its just not worth it.

[21QUEST]

See my opinion in the tyre section

It certainly won't kill you(IMO) unless you want it to.

Mark I will disagree regards the sticky in front stuff. In reality it does really make that much of a difference.

Yes in theory(somewhat) it could be looked at as you describe but people don't really ride that way. It'll be no difference in reality to riding within the capabilities of any matched tyre. Riding style, rider experience/capability etc all being put into the equation

Infact an ex racer friend of mine used to race with a less sticky in some situation. I couldn't right say his thoery for that but he certainly did.

All I can say I guess is, I'm good enough and trust my abilities regards issue. So if people are not sure then maybe they can go with the general concensus. At the moment riding with Avon49 front and Strada Rear(stickier?). Strada rear profile quite different to Avon Rear and noticeably narrower(roughly 5mm-10mm) but as said previously certainly don't feel like I'm about to get intimate with the hedge gods



Ben

[rictus01]

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

See my opinion in the tyre section

It certainly won't kill you(IMO) unless you want it to.

Mark I will disagree regards the sticky in front stuff. In reality it does really make that much of a difference.

Yes in theory(somewhat) it could be looked at as you describe but people don't really ride that way. It'll be no difference in reality to riding within the capabilities of any matched tyre. Riding style, rider experience/capability etc all being put into the equation

Infact an ex racer friend of mine used to race with a less sticky in some situation. I couldn't right say his thoery for that but he certainly did.

All I can say I guess is, I'm good enough and trust my abilities regards issue. So if people are not sure then maybe they can go with the general concensus. At the moment riding with Avon49 front and Strada Rear(stickier?). Strada rear profile quite different to Avon Rear and noticeably narrower(roughly 5mm-10mm) but as said previously certainly don't feel like I'm about to get intimate with the hedge gods



Ben

Oh come on Ben, look, the guy has 6 posts, been a member since feb, and asking a basic question, not a racer (to the best of my knowledge) and your expecting him to be able to feel the grip levels like a racer friend of yours !

Whilst you do have a valid point to an extent, it is very experiance dependent, without knowing that (as in this case) and suspecting very little (once again as in this case) the advise I've given is in no way dangerous, where as yours could be used to save a few bob and lead to a false sense of security and without restraint(A distinct possibility for newer riders) the possibility of being thrown of.

So take your choice if you believe you can tell the constraints of your tyres limitations individually, and ride within them, fine put on whatever you wish, however if you don't then the safest way to judge if you were to push the tyre limits would be a slight twitch from the rear which is far more controlable than a front one, but then again if you're that good why ask the question in the first place.

Cheers Mark.

No, I wouldn't due to the advice given by others, which is why I'm changing both tyres.

Anyone want a free part-worn D220 front? It's going to be junked anyway.

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by rictus01

Oh come on Ben, look, the guy has 6 posts, been a member since feb, and asking a basic question, not a racer (to the best of my knowledge) and your expecting him to be able to feel the grip levels like a racer friend of yours !

Hehe good call. Didn't even look at his stats which more than probably points to experience taking into account question. I'm not comparing racing and road riding at all. I would hazard a guess that even on the track the general concensus would be similar but I can see why you said that .

Whilst you do have a valid point to an extent, it is very experiance dependent, without knowing that (as in this case) and suspecting very little (once again as in this case) the advise I've given is in no way dangerous, where as yours could be used to save a few bob and lead to a false sense of security and without restraint(A distinct possibility for newer riders) the possibility of being thrown of.

I don't see it being dangerous per se to be honest especially if talking about grip levels but again maybe I'm guilty of NOT being a believer in most "statements of doom" . Jokes apart I'm going from experience of even when I got my first bike. I always think "Mess with the head and it's down hill from there"

So take your choice if you believe you can tell the constraints of your tyres limitations individually, and ride within them, fine put on whatever you wish, however if you don't then the safest way to judge if you were to push the tyre limits would be a slight twitch from the rear which is far more controlable than a front one, but then again if you're that good why ask the question in the first place.

All told agree with you here(bar just one wee bit).

Cheers Mark.

Cheers
Ben

[northwind]

Originally Posted by rictus01

No you can get away with mixing brands if you have to,but away make sure the front tyre is the stickiest, if a tyre is going to ever break away you don't want it to be the front one.

Nah, I don't agree with that... The front doesn't become more likely to break away just because the rear is stickier. Yep, sometimes that's a good warning that you're trying too hard, but you have to be trying pretty hard to make the front break away in corners.

Obviously it's not ideal, but I wouldn't say "Don't do it" just that easily- depends a lot on the individual, how they ride, etc.

[Biker Biggles]

I'm with Rictus on this.Just like I'd rather have well sorted front forks and a dodgy rear shock,I'd rather have secure front grip and a loose rear than wobble round with the front slipping first.That said,there is no piont in having a race tyre on the front that never gets hot enough to grip,thus lulling the unwary into a false sense of security------

[21QUEST]

So basically what we are saying is when riding a bike you have to use your nugget


Ben