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Old 22-10-07, 12:03 PM   #1
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Default Cold oil, painful start

Typical, nothing for two years then he has a problem and expects everyone to help.
It's this: I went to start my carb'ed 650 on Sat after a cold night in the garage and the oil was seriously turgid with chilliness. Engine ran, but in pain with the lack of lubricant (no jokes please) until it warmed. A recent service included an oil change, so surely it shouldn't sludge like that with temp drop? Any tips on how to warm up oil before starting (crappy lock-up has no electricity)? Or do I need a fully-synthetic oil to get problem winter thin-ness. Any help warmly recieved (ho ho)
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Old 22-10-07, 12:13 PM   #2
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I believe semi synthetic is what's best.
How cold are you talking about? (you don't say where you are)
If it starts I would just get on & ride off.
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Old 22-10-07, 12:31 PM   #3
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Location, location, location. If you're in Alaska we really can't help...
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Old 22-10-07, 12:34 PM   #4
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Location: Streatham, south London. Temp: not really that cold (4 deg C mebbe?).
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Old 22-10-07, 12:44 PM   #5
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If the engine ran without lubricant it'd be knocking shortly after. Mine, curvy, is noisy on a cold start, even when it's been sat for a couple of weeks.
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Old 22-10-07, 04:36 PM   #6
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Default Re: Cold oil, painful start

Not sure why you believe the engine was in pain. Was it making nasty noises?

If the recent oil change stuck to the recommended 10W-40 it should be fine, a 10W is suitable for starting down to -10C with no problem (and -20C ought to be OK according to the rough guide charts). Only if you were in the position of regularly running in below zero ambient would it be definitely a good idea to go to something thinner (5W etc)

Temp/viscosity chart halfway down here
http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html
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Old 22-10-07, 04:48 PM   #7
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It didn't sound in pain, but it cut out after starting, and the oil light came on. I tried to start it again unsuccessfully (hadn't figured the oil light for anything other than the usual bank of lights when it stalls). I looked down into the window and there was no oil showing - I topped up and it started but the oil still took ages for it to show in the window, suggesting it was all sitting in a chilly sludge over the other side (angled there when the the bike was on its stand). The 10w-40w you'd think would be fine, but just wondered if anyone else has experienced a similar problem. Might change the oil if it persists. Does anyone whack a full size bike cover on to 'seal the heat in' as my MoT guy suggested?
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Old 22-10-07, 05:36 PM   #8
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The oil light is not there to indicate the level,just the pressure when it is running,hence it comes on when the engine is stopped.The level in the sight glass needs to be checked with the bike absolutely upright and on level ground.Your oil will not all sit over on the left if the bike is upright,unless you filled it with tar.Most svs wont run well when cold,and need a bit of cajoling to get running well enough to ride off.
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Old 22-10-07, 05:47 PM   #9
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It was just so unusual. Nothing like it in the two years I've had it.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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Old 22-10-07, 05:56 PM   #10
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make sure you check the oil level with the bike vertical and not on the side stand.
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