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Indeed. Wind is being utilised a lot more, and I'm sure at some point in the future there will be so many tossers going on about green energy that most of our electricity wont come from coal etc.

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Originally Posted by specialone (Post 2453307)

The two teslas that they had on top gear did take 16 hours to charge and if i remember correctly they got something like 38 miles out of them.
Perhaps they have been modified since.
Long way off imo, i also think there aint much difference when you factor all the hidden things in, if they are really that much greener.
Im yet to be convinced, atm they're only good for shopping go karts.

Cool. Memory status re-instated ;)

Anyone know anything more about that liquid hydrogen H*nda, which only passes water as a waste product?

I can see that working on a big scale.

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Originally Posted by reeder (Post 2453348)

Indeed. Wind is being utilised a lot more, and I'm sure at some point in the future there will be so many tossers going on about green energy that most of our electricity wont come from coal etc.

At some point yeah, but there is no point anyone saying how good we are for making really good electric cars until we have those cleaner ways to make electricity.

Ok the way I see it is this:

A couple of years ago, cars seemed to be pretty un-economical. Go back to the late 90s when petrol was around 70-75p, an economical petrol motor would be something that would get 50mpgs at best (I think the Cinquecento might have been one of them).
Fast forward 10 years and Petrol and Diesel prices are rocketing. Governments are slapping tax on it like its going out of fashion but they are making a killing on it because of the rise in prices, their taxes rise exponentially.
Finally governments decide collectively that we're doing some damage to the planet and within a year, we have a flood of cars which can now do 70+ on a petrol engine. Some claiming almost 90mpgs which is nearly double that of what they could produce only 7 or 8 years previously. All of a sudden, this technology has come from nowhere, despite working with the internal combustion engine for over 100 years. These MPG figures come at little cost to performance in comparison with their counterparts of yesteryear despite increasing emission regulations.

The governments around the world are happy for us to use more fuel, because they control the oil fields (we fight wars and phoney wars for it) and in return get the money in their pockets and make themselves very rich. Oil money rules the world, despite them stating that there's a desperate need for alternative fuel.

There's probably a lot of research gone into Electric vehicles or other alternatives, and I'm in no doubt that someone somewhere must have a very good idea which has been implemented however, the powers that be are keeping it well under wraps because they dont want the shift of power transferring and a huge revenue loss in the process.

The concept of electric vehicles has been around a long time now, we've all seen the predictions of when oil might run out so to suggest that we are still a long way from finding the "solution" is in my opinion, ********.

I'm sure when the time comes for oil to be a precious commodity, then all of a sudden we will see this "new technology" suddenly come into the public domain. Until then, carry on being bent over by government after government creaming the tax profits and filling their own pockets with cash.

Rant over.

Oh and it was a Honda FCX Clarity that they had on TG a few years back. The problem isnt the engine, but pulling the Hydrogen off whatever its stuck to

What car can do a realistic 70+ mpg??

By realistic I mean real world driving not lab tests + some on top for good measure as the manufacturers like to do.

Does anyone remember the bill boards showing 100mpg from a maestro diesel ? 50 was ambitious.

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Originally Posted by hongman (Post 2453511)

What car can do a realistic 70+ mpg??

By realistic I mean real world driving not lab tests + some on top for good measure as the manufacturers like to do.

Mine is a 1.3cdti corsa 2004 and it'll easily get 60mpg real world.

Still not 70+ (and even 90') as suggested by the post though!

I'm not berating the post btw - it wouldn't surprise me if there were cars that can do that, just none that I know of (I'm not exactly a car nut, if you get me). If there is one I'd like to know about it!

65 is probably the most I have personally seen but that was on an Audi A3 1.9? 53 plate driving on tickover the entire tank. Not exactly real world.

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Originally Posted by Tommy H (Post 2453399)

At some point yeah, but there is no point anyone saying how good we are for making really good electric cars until we have those cleaner ways to make electricity.

There is currently about 2gw of wind energy in the uk which is bugger all and mostly onshore. The government has made a commitment for the to be 42gw installed by 2020... Most of which will be so far offshore you can't even see it.

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Originally Posted by hongman (Post 2453573)

Still not 70+ (and even 90') as suggested by the post.

This was a 1.6tdi golf I had for a month, easily achieved 60+mpg doing 80 down the motorway

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2132065_n.jpg

This was a fiesta zetec s 1.6tdci that I had for 3000 miles from newso was not at it most economical. I had it upto 72mpg and the motorway at 65mph easily.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4926317_n.jpg

The Audi a2 1.4tdi was famous for being able to achieve 80+mpg

Yeah G, but what the gauge says and what you actually get, are they similar?

My Mk2 golf GTI wasnt very accurate but tech has come a long way since i suppose.