So you are right Gudster.

There is no point spending hours preaching to the converted. You have your opinions, you voice them, Northy has his, he voices them, and you both call each other monkeys :wink: and that is completely fine IMO. It is not trolling. You want to take on people, you want to challange people. We all do sometimes. This is the way of things.

We are grown ups, and these things are not really that personal. We say these things because we believe them. The complete oposite to trolling.

And whatever you think about some of these liberal lefties' opinion about politics, you could do worse than listen to their opinions about bikes.

My opinions on politics are so left they are virtually coming back the other side. And what I know about bikes is almost not worth writing down. So, I can safely be ignored on all fronts. :P

lol.

You are wrong.

Question for you Gudster...... are you actually able to dispute any of the references or information that has been supplied in support of the loony-left argument? Or just insinuate it is not worth listening to because it is as you say, loony left? Seems to be a common tactic amongst some people.

Like you say, obviously Noam Chomsky is a complete liberal US hating loony scumbag. Obviously. But are you able to actually dispute anything he has written? Cos i'm not sure the Bush administration has been able to do that..... don't they just ignore him. Oh, and spread nasty rumours that he is a 'liberal US hating loony scumbag'.

Actually, nother couple of question for you Gudster.

In your (humble) opinion:

Why was Iraq invaded and still being occupied?

Why was Afghanistan invaded, and still being occupied?

THnaks for your time.

Who is standing well back Jelster?

And as if by magic "poof" (cloud of smoke) he arrives on the scene...

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You did hurt my feelings a little Jelster by calling me a troll. But then you more than made up for it by calling me magic, so I suppose all is forgiven.

Exactly..... so we can work with this group of people whilst it suits us. And when it suits us not to, BANG...... we have a new enemy.

Hmmmm, now where have we seen that model used recently?

Is this the new K6? Yes we have seen it before because it's the same as the K5...just different colours.

Yes but it's only a model---Ssssssshhhhh. :wink:














Camelot.

i rejoined the fray mainly to answer Northwind & Supervox, not to communicate further with you my friend (although you can think yourself lucky that i threw you a few scraps :lol:).
my lack of desire to get entrenched in a "debate" with someone coming from the hard left perspective still stands.
i'd sooner stick pins in my eyes.
go add your comments at Harry's Place if you want a long discussion on your chosen subjects, from both sides of the fence.
the world cup is about to start ....and thats where we end.
bye