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Alpinestarhero 10-01-08 09:38 AM

Re: Today's debate - Nuclear power
 
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Originally Posted by neio79 (Post 1382799)
what about nuclear powerd cars, buses and trains. might make people drive a bit safer??

Mean I wont have to stop for petrol :D How much would 10 kg of uranium take me?

How much do the nuclear subs use?

Matt

the_lone_wolf 10-01-08 09:46 AM

Re: Today's debate - Nuclear power
 
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Originally Posted by DanDare (Post 1382782)
That goes critical...

and herein lies the problem...

you are aware that it's impossible for the material used in nuclear reactors to produce a nuclear explosion aren't you?;) - it's actually very difficult to produce an atomic bomb, the circumstances have to be just right for the reaction to occur

Wikipedia says so

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Originally Posted by alpinestarhero
That'll be most people then...utter the words "nuclear" and "chemicals", and you got mass hysteria on your hands

NMRI anyone?:rolleyes:

Mogs 10-01-08 09:49 AM

Re: Today's debate - Nuclear power
 
I grew up watching "Tomorrows World" when Raymond Baxter was telling us that nuclear power would be so cheap that sending out the bills would be the biggest expense. I still waiting for those days.

That said I don't think it's the only solution we should take.

I'm fed up with the highly principled Greens - We don't want to pollute so we'll have wind turbines, but they scare the fish so don't put them out to sea, we can't have them on land as they will spoil the view. We can't barrage the Severn, where are all the birds going to live?

Ceri JC 10-01-08 09:54 AM

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My step brother died as a result of Sellafield, so naturally I'm a bit cautious about it, but I think operated properly, it's probably the most sensible/realistic solution to the supposed looming energy crisis (it's already 30 years later than predicted ;)). If battery performance improves (as I'm sure it will), battery powered small cars, with the batteries being recharged from electricity created by nuclear power seems an ideal alternative to most peoples' second cars and should help cut down the speed at which we use up petrol. Not to mention the insanely good performance of some battery powered motorbikes.

the_lone_wolf 10-01-08 10:00 AM

Re: Today's debate - Nuclear power
 
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Originally Posted by Ceri JC (Post 1382814)
Not to mention the insanely good performance of some battery powered motorbikes.

true, electric cars can't work right now because they're ultimately coal powered and battery technology is frankly, crap. hydrogen fuel is nothing of the sort, it costs you at least as much energy to produce the hydrogen as you get back when you burn it, in reality the losses would be significant. hydrogen would make a good energy storage medium though if we can overcome the dangers of keeping pressurised explosives in objects that crash into each other on a regular basis:D

Alpinestarhero 10-01-08 10:00 AM

Re: Today's debate - Nuclear power
 
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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 1382809)


NMRI anyone?:rolleyes:

You know, i was just thinking about the term Magnetic Nuclear Resonance Imaging and Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Imaging aswell

Leave out the nuclear, and everyone dosnt mind it

Mogs, your right; we can do more but so many people dont want it in their vicintiy (NIMBY attitude). Personally, I wuldnt mind a few wind-turbines scattered along the coastline where I live, if it helps to reduce the engery costs and reduce the use of non-renewable sources. Its a small sacrifice, and they dont disrupt anything too much. Out to sea, they could even be a place for new marine ecosystems to grow, much like what happens on sunken ships and things

Matt

gettin2dizzy 10-01-08 10:05 AM

Re: Today's debate - Nuclear power
 
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Originally Posted by neio79 (Post 1382799)
what about nuclear powerd cars, buses and trains. might make people drive a bit safer??

Imagine being able to drive around the world on a 'tank' of fuel. That would make doing a 'charley and ewan' so much easier. Love the idea :)

neio79 10-01-08 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by alpinestarhero (Post 1382801)
How much do the nuclear subs use?

Matt


dont know , but i know the limiting factor on the length of time under water is the crew and the space to keep fres rations (water is made on ship from waste water)

the_lone_wolf 10-01-08 10:10 AM

Re: Today's debate - Nuclear power
 
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Originally Posted by alpinestarhero (Post 1382821)
Leave out the nuclear, and everyone dosnt mind it

that's why it was dropped, "Magnetic Resonance Imaging" makes no sense without the Nuclear, but to anyone who didn't understand how the process works, and that it's nothing to do with radioactivity, would freak out when told they were having a nuclear scan:smt120

Luckypants 10-01-08 10:21 AM

Re: Today's debate - Nuclear power
 
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Originally Posted by alpinestarhero (Post 1382821)
Mogs, your right; we can do more but so many people dont want it in their vicintiy (NIMBY attitude). Personally, I wuldnt mind a few wind-turbines scattered along the coastline where I live,

Matt

Good, you have the damn things then. I'm not against wind energy per se, nor even in my back yard. It's the amount of turbines needed to make a difference. They turn the area where you live into a massive industrial landscape - not what folks who live here want to see, hear or walk and ride around. The economics of wind power are well dodgy, as are their green credentials.

I'm all for nuclear, it is well managed in this country. The French have the right idea, went for nuclear in a big way and don't need to rely so much on fossil fuels. We need to tell the green lobby to get lost and go for it big style as well - as we should have done in the 80's and 90's.


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