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Some of the reasoning behind disapline is sound if you a little gob ****e who does not do as they are told then you are not going to do as you are told when it matters.

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Aye... I did half cover myself by saying some are animals... or :toss:'s maybe more appropriet. Its a crappy position to be in I agree. :(

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If they can't take it they shouldn't join, simple as that.

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Nevr been in the forces - but from what I have read physical excercise is no longer allowed to be used as punishment - but I could have got that wrong?

I can see plusses and minusses in this situation - certainly any organisation that allows those who are recognised to be only capable of commanding a small amount of authority are nonetheless given the power to use the authority they have in a way that could kill someone cannot claim no responsibility.

IMO their is a fundamental line between hard discipline with a purpose and bullying for self enjoyment. I am sure the Army has enuf of those with a stripe or 2 who enjoy the latter. Obviously me not in the forces means a lot I don't know - but IME human nature is human nature - and no reason why the Army should be any different.

From what I can gather the Army runs a policy of wilful blindness to what goes on in certain matters, until such time as "the sh#t hits the fan" at which time they throw all concerned to the wolves......whilst expressing surprise.

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I thought you said you were never in the forces! You seem to know to much!

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10 years in the Air Force and never saw or even heard of beastings , mind you, we were treated like adults I suppose so we probably wouldnt have had it done to us, I expect the navy is the same.

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The Air Force send their officers in to battle and they are high in the sky and unlikely to be engaging the enemy in hand to hand combat. The Navy shoot missiles from miles and miles away. The Army are there at the front line with every possible chance they will be engaging the enemy at very close quarters. It takes a very different type of discipline and therefor training.

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Fair point I suppose, not disputing that at all, but killing someone for the sake of discipline does seem a bit outdated dont you think ?

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I'd hazard a guess that killing him wasn't actually on the agenda. Let's not forget the drugs in his body too.

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Again, fair point, I dunno I just never saw it in the air force, then again its a different era, Ive been out a while.