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muffles 28-08-08 10:46 AM

Re: Super sport test...
 
Btw, wouldn't 155kg be a moto GP bike's wet weight?

ogden 28-08-08 10:52 AM

Re: Super sport test...
 
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Originally Posted by muffles (Post 1607332)
Btw, wouldn't 155kg be a moto GP bike's wet weight?

<looks at sig>

Sounds a bit bloaty to me.

ThEGr33k 28-08-08 10:57 AM

Re: Super sport test...
 
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Originally Posted by muffles (Post 1607329)
Well, the Honda web site unfortunately is only showing wet weight (184kg for the 600RR, clearly not the dry weight).

I get the feeling any other links will be ridiculed as being wrong :p but here's Wikipedia as an example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CBR600RR

Dry weight on the RR went down from 164kg to 155kg for the 07 model. Of course I didn't anticipate "dry" and "drier-than-dry" weights! :p

Aye thats the thing... its like the claimed power is at the crank... pointless. I thought id post this just to show people the real numbers, thought you'd be interested.

In the end the actual numbers dont really matter, its how it feels like to ride and tbh on the road you probably wont tell the difference.

On the track where they tested them they said the extra weight made the bike a little slower to flick from lean to lean. They also said that the extra weight made moving around on the bike mid corner better and that it didnt upset the bike, and that it was more stable mid corner too, where the others were skitish.


I think the MotoGP bikes are 138KG Dry as far as rules go. How dry though I cant say. Fully wet Id guess about maybe 155-160KG... but they have big tanks (21L I think they are allowed). Not sure if they have much of a battery.

muffles 28-08-08 11:09 AM

Re: Super sport test...
 
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Originally Posted by ogden (Post 1607336)
<looks at sig>

Sounds a bit bloaty to me.

Lol, who's sig? Maybe being dumb - couldn't see any obvious moto-gp-wet-weight references ;)

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Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1607345)
Aye thats the thing... its like the claimed power is at the crank... pointless. I thought id post this just to show people the real numbers, thought you'd be interested.

In the end the actual numbers dont really matter, its how it feels like to ride and tbh on the road you probably wont tell the difference.

On the track where they tested them they said the extra weight made the bike a little slower to flick from lean to lean. They also said that the extra weight made moving around on the bike mid corner better and that it didnt upset the bike, and that it was more stable mid corner too, where the others were skitish.


I think the MotoGP bikes are 138KG Dry as far as rules go. How dry though I cant say. Fully wet Id guess about maybe 155-160KG... but they have big tanks (21L I think they are allowed). Not sure if they have much of a battery.

I reckon the full wet weight is of use, but probably no others...although it doesn't tell you much about the weight distribution of course...

Do they not use one of them that total loss systems (no battery)?

the_lone_wolf 28-08-08 11:15 AM

Re: Super sport test...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muffles (Post 1607354)
Do they not use one of them that total loss systems (no battery)?

no battery or starter (hence the car-jack lookalikes they wheel under the back wheel to bump start the engines)

but i'd imagine the computer systems need DC power from somewhere, so they probably have a small battery for them, easier than running power from the engine i'd have thought?:confused:

edit: a total loss system does have a battery, it just doesn't get charged by the engine so it runs down over time

ThEGr33k 28-08-08 11:22 AM

Re: Super sport test...
 
No wasnt sure about batteries. I heard they didnt have them. They must run streight off of the alternator. :confused:

You are right muffles its the distribution of weight that counts the most not the actual amount. Thats very obvious when like I mentioned people compair GSX-R's to SV's. The weight is similar but pretty much everyone says the SV feels heavier. (This is imo down to weight distribution, e.g. SV will have heavier wheels which will slow the steering, the Gixxer will have most weight up top so it will fall into corners and the main thing is probably the rear ride height...).

the_lone_wolf 28-08-08 11:29 AM

Re: Super sport test...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1607364)
No wasnt sure about batteries. I heard they didnt have them. They must run streight off of the alternator. :confused:

would make more sense to have a small rechargable Li-ion battery and not have the hassle of extra cogs/chains/casing weight shirley

ThEGr33k 28-08-08 11:41 AM

Re: Super sport test...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 1607377)
would make more sense to have a small rechargable Li-ion battery and not have the hassle of extra cogs/chains/casing weight shirley

Would that be stron enough for the sparkers? If so then id agree. I dont know a great deal about the battery system I have to admit.

Dangerous Dave 28-08-08 11:49 AM

Re: Super sport test.
 
I think all the weights they have published are wrong to be honest, the 675 is not 200kg and it is heavier than the Triumph number!

Scoobs 28-08-08 11:58 AM

Re: Super sport test.
 
Wish I'd brought a CBR600RR.......hold on a minute. I did! Yay me.


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