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Thats right if they have a liscence they get point on it if they are not they get points on a provisional when and if they apply for it

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Ah, but the upside of that would be that it would require them to have a license, which they could therefor get points on, and hence be banned.

And once banned, the Police should have the powers to seize any cycles the person is caught right there and then.

Oh and on a funny note, the other night saw a cyclist who HAD stopped at lights fall over when he had an epic fail when trying to latch his footwear onto his pedals.

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True but I've got a license for two wheels already and I'm not sure how well being told I had to take another test to ride my pusher on the road would go down. ;)

Trust me you have no idea how embaressing doing that is. Not that I've done it of course ;)

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In the case of someone already having a license, then there should be no Theory Test requirement, but surely training specific to being under pedal power in traffic would be useful to have?

All I am talking about is a one-day/half day course on the lines of a CBT.

Or maybe you are right and cycling entitlement should come on all licenses.

I'm not really trying to get cyclists off the road, just have them trained to be safe on the road.

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I'm not so sure. I'm an experienced cyclist and a motorcyclist. I honestly dont know what else you'd teach me, althought I realise a refresher lesson might be off benefit, but then you're talking about extra cost to cover the training and if its to expensive then people wont go on it anyway. If the police struggle to keep unlicensed, un-insured drivers off our roads then IMHO they're going to struggle just as badly to deal with unlicensed cyclists. They cant police the mobile phone laws now as an example.

I agree, but the trouble is is that from what I've seen those very same cyclists have car licenses and are adults that should know better, no amount of training / legislation will allow you to deal with people who are stupid IMHO.

I'm not saying this is the case but whats required here is tolerance of other road users, I've been at the end of some terrible drivnig and abuse towards me on my pushbike, I've been spat at, shouted at, had somebody try and run me off the road, my crime "riding a pushbike" Its not always the cyclists in the wrong.

I also a re think about shared cycle lanes, either shared with pedestrians or cages, they just dont work, it needs a radical rethink and that costs money and means government and local authorities putting in effort to make it happen.

I just dont see that more legislation is the way forward with this. I like the example that Poilce have been taking at one dodgy junction in Bristol, they've had a police presence on the junction and people they've been catching who are Red Light Jumping or riding on the pavements, are being stopped spoken to and told the errors on their ways and then being hit where it hurts them most in their pockets with a fine. I'd like to see more of this personally. Its the only way some people listen.

Its definately a growing problem and its not one thats going to go away, more people are cycling now due to the current economic climate and things such as the cycle to work scheme. Maybe the should build the training into that. I.e if you buy a bike on the cycle to work scheme, you get 1/2 days tuition on the basics as part of the scheme. Its IMHO people that are commuting for the first time on their pushers that are the majority of the problem I think. Welll it certainly is around my neck of the woods anyway.

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I always thought that cyclists on the road were treated like "wheeled traffic" and as such shouldnt go through red lights. And Jambo - I couldnt eat a WHOLE one, so the remains would probably point back to me...mmmm, worth thinking about though.

I had a cyclist on the footpath turn the corner, crash into me (nearly spraining my wrist, which took the impact) and THEN started abusing me - I was totally gobsmacked!

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Well done FS, you made me chuckle :)

Why epople get so wound up about these things in london, beats me. Its going to happen, so get over it and go and live in the country if you dont like it. I had a scooter rider stand on my foot the other day! Yes i wanted to push him over, but couldnt be a*sed to raise the effort!

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As do some motorcyclists, car drivers, truckers etc so i wouldn't worry too much about it.

I personally feel that anyone who uses any form of transport on a public highway, be it car, motorbike, pushbike, mobility buggy or horse should have to take a test & have insurance, as for inconsiderate cyclists, yes there are some that are totally thick or ignorant but there are a lot more that are responsible people as with us motorcyclists, if i see a cyclist on the footpath i will purposely walk in the centre of the path, they either stop or hit me, then i point out to them that the cycle path is on the other f*****g side of the road.

What p's me off more than anything is the electric buggy drivers who zip along footpaths at 25mph & expect you to jump off the path into the road just because they think you should, half of them don't honestly even need to be in a buggy it's just because they are too fat & idle to get off their ar5e & walk anywhere, just recently i've seen two people puishing their buggies along because they have run out of charge, now if they can push one surely they don't need one, i'd love to get a stinger & run across the path with it when one comes along. :twisted:

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:confused:...so you are saying that people should just be rude and dangerous just because its a big city? Politeness cost nothing and in this case, could save someone's life - I do my darnest (being pillion is a lot easier though I hasten to add) to be polite to people and manners goes a long way in my book.

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I agree with you there, but why should you go down for assult because some muppet wants to jump a red light. Yes its all wrong, but for everyone you **** there will be another 100 or so that do the same thing! Same with mobile phones, lorry dirvers not looking where they are going so on and so forth. People will always be rude and dangerous. I am sure that not one person on here that rides a motorcycle has never done anything dangerous at least once! I just think that we as a group, motorbike riders all stand on our high horses saying they do this they do that, and to be honest, we are not exactly law abiding! These cyclists yes, i agree need thier heads sorting out, but one day they will do it and become a cropper. It wont stop them doing it for sure and why should you as a person get a criminal record for assult for the privalage? So no, i dont agree that people should be rude or dangerous, but its thier funeral