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SUPERSTARDJ01 05-05-09 09:04 AM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
Thanks everyone, I think I will try both ways and see what suits her best.

Dave20046 05-05-09 09:21 AM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
On the v-twin being careful with your gearing (i.e not the gear change aspect) and particularly throttling off helps, try to smooth the jerkyness or you'll be constantly getting nutted/punched in the kidneys.

Baph 05-05-09 09:33 AM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1894382)
It can be just as smooth as clutched and much faster.

That's exactly why I use the clutch when I have a pillion. I tend to ride a LOT faster when I'm not using the clutch. It depends on the pillion as to if they'd be scared of that, but there's also implications in the bikes handling.

So long as you're smooth & comfortable, then do whatever you want.

yorkie_chris 05-05-09 12:13 PM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1894901)
but there's also implications in the bikes handling.

I find the speed of a clutchless shift keeps everything a bit more planted, less time off the power means practically no time for the rear suspension to unload itself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1894901)
So long as you're smooth & comfortable, then do whatever you want.

+1 Most important thing.

vardypeeps 05-05-09 12:29 PM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
Iv surprised someone on a Aprilia Tuono before on the SV650 by shifting clutchless as he was changing using his clutch.

Best thing is to stick to the clutch with a pillion just makes it easier.

gettin2dizzy 05-05-09 02:47 PM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
Use the clutch with a pillion if you need to ask this question. Personally I always use the clutch with a pillion, but the SV 'box was a blinder for smooth clutchless up or down changes.

DANINPLYMOUTH 06-05-09 12:03 PM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
I tend to use the clutch around town but when out on it dont bother it seems smoother without using it, its quicker plus it makes me feel a lot better.
This is on my own or 2up

stevebetts 06-05-09 12:23 PM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 1894452)
In response to the OP, you should ride smoothly with a pillion. This is key to making reasonable progress 2-up without tying the suspension in a knot and parking yourself in a hedge.

For a beginner this is much easier to do WITH the clutch!

Also, remember to grip HARD with your knees when braking, unless you want your plums smearing across the back of the tank!

I didnt realise some people find riding two up such a mystery.
If you know your bike then you should not have any problems.

ophic 06-05-09 12:26 PM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stevebetts (Post 1896294)
I didnt realise some people find riding two up such a mystery.

If you've never taken a pillion, sometimes its hard to find a willing volunteer :smt029

stevebetts 06-05-09 12:34 PM

Re: Qucik shifting gears with or without a pillion???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ophic (Post 1896297)
If you've never taken a pillion, sometimes its hard to find a willing volunteer :smt029

Spose its possible.
I ride mostly two up and have been fortunate to have good passengers.
I think it is key to explain to them what to do and what is going to happen during the ride.
I remember many years ago (too many) i had a mate on the back of my RD250LC and i pulled away fast from the lights when he wasnt ready - his legs came up and kicked my hands away from the bars!
I grabed them quickly enough though.


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