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Ed 06-01-10 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BanannaMan (Post 2142269)
We're going to need those valuable Israeli airbases more than ever when the US goes to Yemen! :smt066
Did I mention you kids from the UK will get to come play as well??? :smt070
It's the new Afghanistan, don't you know...:smt045

And for when we nuke Iran:smt037

maviczap 06-01-10 09:30 AM

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Watching Ross Kemp with his trip to Gazza the other night was a real eye opener. Isreal's blockade of Gazza, seem to me to be purely to get rid of Hamas, by bringing the people to their knees.
But all it seems to me to be doing is strengthening the cause.

600+ 06-01-10 09:34 AM

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Seems to me that when the UK does the same thing to Afganistan or Iraq to get rid of Al-Qaeda there are no letters.........when another country follows the same ways though i.e. Israel against Palestine to get rid of Hamas is frowned upon.

At the same time I have not seen anyone sign a petition for the young children or women that Hamas use as a shield for when performing their "acts of good will"

One has to protect themselves and as we do with Iraq & Afganistan similarly other countries do with what they consider a risk.

the_lone_wolf 06-01-10 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 600+ (Post 2142321)
One has to protect themselves and as we do with Iraq & Afganistan similarly other countries do with what they consider a risk.

Given that the risk to Israeli lives posed by Quasam rocket attacks is broadly similar to that posed by domestic fireworks within Israel, do you consider 1000+ civilian deaths and an economic blockade designed to prevent the most basic reconstruction "self defence":confused:

The Iraq/Afghanistan analogy is flawed, the UK/US forces are not preventing essential supplies entering those countries, they aren't engaging in deliberate attacks on civilian and UN targets to hurt the local population and they certainly aren't claiming the occupied land as their own...

600+ 06-01-10 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 2142327)
Given that the risk to Israeli lives posed by Quasam rocket attacks is broadly similar to that posed by domestic fireworks within Israel, do you consider 1000+ civilian deaths and an economic blockade designed to prevent the most basic reconstruction "self defence":confused:

The Iraq/Afghanistan analogy is flawed, the UK/US forces are not preventing essential supplies entering those countries, they aren't engaging in deliberate attacks on civilian and UN targets to hurt the local population and they certainly aren't claiming the occupied land as their own...


Where as the risk of a terror attack in the uk is higher?? Please!! The risk is the same yet the response is to send 50000 troops. You can cut the data whichever way you want in these cases.

timwilky 06-01-10 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BanannaMan (Post 2142269)
Surely you jest gentlemen....

Israel can do whatever it wants right now and NATO will turn a blind eye.
We're going to need those valuable Israeli airbases more than ever when the US goes to Yemen! :smt066
Did I mention you kids from the UK will get to come play as well??? :smt070
It's the new Afghanistan, don't you know...:smt045

You can expect Israel to get worse in the coming days.

Whilst it would not surprise me, one thing would be guaranteed as a result. Israel would be the only country in the middle east friendly towards the west.

Given that Al Queda are reputed to be behind many attacks in/from Yemen I guess the gung ho would say a military strike is justified. Far better to let the covert people do their job in private, without stirring up a hornets nest amongst the oil supplies

the_lone_wolf 06-01-10 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 600+ (Post 2142345)
Where as the risk of a terror attack in the uk is higher?? Please!! The risk is the same yet the response is to send 50000 troops. You can cut the data whichever way you want in these cases.

The two situations aren't in the slightest way comparable, why do you think they are?

Once we've occupied Afghanistan illegally for 40 years and treated the local population as 2nd class citizens, then wondered why they resent us and attack us, then we can launch a full scale military attack killing one hundred civilians for every one of our troops and deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure despite universal condemnation from the rest of the world, call it self defence then maintain a level of squalor in the country to rival the worst ****holes around the world by refusing to allow essential medical and building supplies into the country in order to punish the civilian population further for electing a group who resist our illegal occupation/subjugation, then we'll complain how everybody is anti UK forces and dismiss criticism of our actions as "Pro-Afghanistan propaganda".

Perhaps then the situations might be comparable...

600+ 06-01-10 11:43 AM

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Or perhaps you can then justify why The UK loaded the ships with the European Jews sent them there in an anti-Jew and anti western location and gave them what they required to build a country in what before was occupied UK land.

Maybe at the same time you can answer the question of why British ships opened fire and killed a few hundreds people from those ships before they reached that destination.

Also while you are there try and answer why you occupied Cyprus then screwed the people there, cause riots that send you packing but not before Turkey invaded the north of the island.

Overall stop criticising what happens in other countries the moment you are done with your games, leave the people there to sort it out themselves and then have the nerve to comment:))

ironic isn't it that wherever you set foot it's now in a worst state than it was before?

yorkie_chris 06-01-10 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 2142228)
Yet a metal sign gets nicked from auschwitz and the press wanna cover that instead.

Oy vey, think about the plight ov my people...

F***in hook nosed hypocrites...

the_lone_wolf 06-01-10 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 600+ (Post 2142411)
ironic isn't it that wherever you set foot it's now in a worst state than it was before?

I'll have to check my holiday snaps but I don't remember doing any of the things you mention...

But while we're on the subject of attacking people who played no part in something that happened years before they were born it seems as good a time as any to point out that the Jews killed Jesus...:rolleyes:


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