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Warthog 05-05-10 01:08 PM

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I am voting Lib Dems as I think there needs to be electoral reform and neither of the two big parties are going to do it without being forced. I predict a minority Tory government however.

TazDaz 05-05-10 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckypants (Post 2261032)
If you don't vote, don't moan when the country is not run how you want it to be. Not voting is a complete cop out!

I love this can of worms.

Your whole statement is laughable.

Please do tell how me voting for a candidate who's party will not run things to my liking will give me the right to complain? Surely I have voted for them therefore I shouldn't complain because I effectively put them into power?

mister c 05-05-10 01:57 PM

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I hate politics, cant stand polititians, they are only in it for what they can get, but have to vote I suppose.
Think I will vote Lib Dems because I dont like Cameron (smarmy git) & I think that Brown is a Bigot that inhales wierdly lol.

Warthog 05-05-10 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TazDaz (Post 2261079)
Please do tell how me voting for a candidate who's party will not run things to my liking will give me the right to complain? Surely I have voted for them therefore I shouldn't complain because I effectively put them into power?

No, if you vote for a different party to the one who wins! i.e. if the party who gets elected runs things badly, if you didn't vote to stop them then you can't complain. He doesn't mean if you vote in the current party to have a right to complain to them.

Bluefish 05-05-10 01:59 PM

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I'm voteing for, none of the above lol, is being a smarmy git a pre- requisite for the job?

the_lone_wolf 05-05-10 02:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefishman (Post 2261085)
I'm voteing for, none of the above lol, is being a smarmy git a pre- requisite for the job?

It doesn't have to be, but unfortunately it seems this time round, yes

Noble Ox 05-05-10 02:06 PM

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Cameron's a Villa fan. Scored my vote for that reason alone...

ThEGr33k 05-05-10 02:06 PM

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If you arnt going to vote at least go and just spoil your voting ballet. It gets counted and in a sense you have had your say...

Quote:

Originally Posted by specialone (Post 2261009)
Good vid Pete, but where has the producer of that film been ??
He thinks that the present government has done a good job ??
The facts are if the tories win, they will be taking over the reigns of a country in a worse state than when they were last in power, labour took over a country and economy in a relatively good state.


Indeed. Labour pretended to be increasing the economy by allowing silly personal lending (people spending beyond their means looks good for the economy apparently) allow silly lending by the banks, spend money we didnt have to give people public jobs that we dont need, increasing benefits for the people who dont deserve them, giving more power to the EU, taxing fuel to the extreme...

Labour has crippled this country and its only really come to the fore because of the banking crisis sadly.

Bri w 05-05-10 02:11 PM

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I think there is nothing wrong with not voting if its because no party gets anywhere near waht you want.

Can't be bothered is a different thing IMO.

I'm voting LibDem but a little concerned that Nick Clegg wouldn't say who'd he would side with in a Coalition Govt - concerned a vote for LibDem would be a backhanded vote for more years of Labour waste.

Luckypants 05-05-10 02:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TazDaz (Post 2261079)
I love this can of worms.

Your whole statement is laughable.

Please do tell how me voting for a candidate who's party will not run things to my liking will give me the right to complain? Surely I have voted for them therefore I shouldn't complain because I effectively put them into power?

Seeing as you only selectively quote me, perhaps my whole statement is not laughable?

Not voting at all, means (to me at least) that you can't complain about how the country is being run - because you did not take your chance to have a say in who should be running the country.

Now if you vote for someone and they do not keep their election promises then complain all you like. If you vote for someone and their policies turn out to be a pile of poo then really you have no grounds for complaint, you got what you voted for. You can still grumble about the fact that it's rubbish if you want :D. If you vote for someone but they do not get in, then you can complain long and loud about cockups from the one who did get in.

Not voting is allowing the status quo to continue and will perpetuate government by those who have the support of only a minority of people in the country. It means you cba to make a decision on who to support. As I previously stated, no one party will meet the expectations of the usual voter. Apparently my views are 50% LD and 25% UKIP plus a smattering of other parties - go square that given LD and UKIP views on immigration and EU membership. So in a genuine contest I'll be voting for the party whose policies most closely match my own agenda and that is the Lib-Dems.

So although the 'don't vote, don't complain' is a nice glib phrase, for me it underlines the more serious message that we need to vote if we want to have a say in how the country is run.


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