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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2317984)

Your choice to make. You comparing one crash of your to one totally different.

Man has crashed on a corner and you telling me it is bad for him to brush up on his cornering. What damed fool logic is that.

I think you are missing the point. I have neither seen his thread nor known that he has fallen off until reading this one. This is in a way an unrelated topic...its about his child giving him a guilt trip.

I cannot comment on what happened in his crash as I have not read it. I am not making comparisons to my crash, you brought it up. I only said what my son felt like when I fell off. I am only commenting to this particular subject. I did wonder what the hell you got on yor high horse for:smt110

Thanks peeps.

I wont give up riding...but just wondered if anyone had the same experience. It;d be different if it was the Mrs, a mate, anyone really that was older.

The fact that it came un-provoked from my 4yr old son is what is so...shaking.

Cant be a bad thing I guess, I feel so guilty about doing something so stupid, I really doubt I'll ever do it again.

Skill-wise...I have no confidence issues taking bends I have set up for. This was a pure stupidity moment, lost all concentration/obs, all I was thinking about was catching up to my buddy. Hit that hairpin WAY to quick, even then it turned in WAY more sharply than I anticipated. Inevitable really. I have gone round similar corners before no problems, but I wasnt rushing.

I do have loads to learn, I think when I get back on I'm going to be going out by myself for a bit to practice riding my ride, not anyone elses. I dont think I'm ready for group rides yet...

Many good points in these replies, too many to quote, each made me feel better and help put things into perspective.

Thank you.

Kids are not stupid, they just don't have all of the facts. Read a book called "Native Stones", has a very interesting section on the love of dangerous sports and having kids. As an outdoor leader, I rely on the risk element as a teaching tool and your son is seeing risk and assuming the worst. You need to reassure him that you will be careful and try not to let him worry, mentioning that falling off is normal and that is why you have so much safety gear to keep you safe will give him something to think about. Maybe show him so GP footage of riders sliding off will help?

Your next step though is to try cave diving, that is one of the most dangerous sports out there! Realistically, the risk assessments you now make while riding will be different since coming off and that was a good lesson to learn, it scared you a bit and has given you awake up call about what is important. Chris and Dizzy both valid points though, practice those skills, but do it with in the limits you feel comfortable with.

I did a "First Bike on Scene" First Aid Course recently and it was interesting listening to the Paramedic talking about crashed and broken bikers. He had a lot of dark stories about people breaking spines and living out their lives in wheel chairs which we know happens, but if we let the fear of it rule us, we would never ride again.

Ride safe Hongman, build up your experience and when your lad is big enough, take him for a ride. They love it.

Sell the child, buy a better bike with the profit.

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Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 2318024)

Sell the child, buy a better bike with the profit.

Lozzo, you are a very bad man, although that is why we love you! :smt110

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris (Post 2317974)

Yes, just carry on riding exactly as you were when you crashed and make no effort to learn proper and safe roadcraft. Of course this will not lead to another accident, proper skills are completely worthless! But without children of course I wouldn't know anything about how to put a bike around a corner without going hedge surfing :smt078 (4 year olds been well known physics teachers an all that...)

http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strol...lerWaldorf.JPG

aye aye waldorf and stadler at it again x

Every single time I go out my daughter says "Bye Daddy, don't fall off your motorbike".

:rolleyes: yeah, cheers for that

hongman, my parents don't approve at all and that I did come off didn't really help... my imagination now tells me every time the phone rings they're expecting to hear I've done it big time.

I think they'd be very glad if I gave it up... Mrs Metal by contrast assured me while I was STILL STANDING ON THE ROADSIDE looking at my smashed bike (via telephone) that she would come out with me again as soon as I was ready.

TBH I worry about it more than anyone, I think. I lay awake last night having all the irrational fears I get when my mind is idle about the AR.

I don't know what I'd tell your son, apart from the fact that I don't think he understands everything yet and only sees the bad side of it.

I was guilt tripped a lot before I actually bought a bike by my parents, as my dad lost 4 mates when he was my age due to bike accidents they did a lot of discouraging, however when I just turned up on the SV and banged it in the garage they weren't impressed.

Just see it as lesson learnt and start again, know your son at 4 doesn't want you to have one I'm sure it'll encourage you to ride safer and be much more aware.

The wee guy isn't guilt tripping you, he just knows you fell off and it hurt and in his logic, it won't happen again if you don't go back on the bike.

Get his interest back in it, let him "help" you fix it for a little while, watch the bike racing with him, maybe go a ride up the street and back with him standing watching so he see's you are not instantly going to fall off.