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Biker Biggles 09-01-11 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by maviczap (Post 2456370)
That might have changed recently, we were taught to use Nellie the Elephant :p

Stayin Alive might be the latest, I forget what we were using :D
I prefere "Spirit in the Sky"
Altogether more appropriate.:D

rictus01 09-01-11 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by maviczap (Post 2456348)
The only thing with this is you must keep your training up to date, certainly in CPR, as the Resitation council change how its done as new reserch finds out what works best.
see i'd have to disagree to an extent, whilst it's preferable to have the latest and most up date training, and if your workplace offers that then by all means, but most will hopefully at some point do a "one off" course which may never be repeated or updated, If I was the recipient I'd rather someone use what they learn 5 years ago, than think they had better not try anything because it maybe out of date, wouldn't you?

cheers Mark.

Biker Biggles 09-01-11 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rictus01 (Post 2456386)
see i'd have to disagree to an extent, whilst it's preferable to have the latest and most up date training, and if your workplace offers that then by all means, but most will hopefully at some point do a "one off" course which may never be repeated or updated, If I was the recipient I'd rather someone use what they learn 5 years ago, than think they had better not try anything because it maybe out of date, wouldn't you?

cheers Mark.
True.Theres a bit of an "industry" surrounding this,with lots of jobs for the boys(and girls).The bottom line is usually that a good dose of cpr and a bolt from the dfib, if required, all done quickly, either sorts it or you are a gonner.

G 09-01-11 11:55 AM
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I'm a qualified advanced first aider through work due to the conditions and environment we work in. The course was mind numbing as a lot of it is common sense but it is worth doing to reaffirm your confidence in any given situation.

metalmonkey 09-01-11 12:06 PM
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If you are de-fib trained and see someone that needs help think where they may be close to your location. So in London, tube stations, shopping centres, maybe big buildings ect. Quicker a person gets help, better the chance they have. Most de-fib units such as this are automatic as well.

I was told on the training I did, most important get CPR started and don't stop until someone who is more qualified than you turns up.

When it comes to it, do something rather nothing!

G 09-01-11 12:22 PM
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99% of defibs available to the public are completely automatic. You attach the pads and press a button. The unit will then perform a test and decide whether to shock or not. Slightest bit of electrical impulse detected and it won't shock, including if someone is touching a victim. A 10 year old could use one.

maviczap 09-01-11 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rictus01 (Post 2456386)
see i'd have to disagree to an extent, whilst it's preferable to have the latest and most up date training, and if your workplace offers that then by all means, but most will hopefully at some point do a "one off" course which may never be repeated or updated, If I was the recipient I'd rather someone use what they learn 5 years ago, than think they had better not try anything because it maybe out of date, wouldn't you?

cheers Mark.
I was only refering to CPR, but even if you did 15:2 instead of 30:2, you'd still be be better than doing nothing at all

The first hour is the 'golden hour' the better you do for the paitent in the 1st hour, the better the long term outcome.

maviczap 09-01-11 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by metalmonkey (Post 2456398)
I was told on the training I did, most important get CPR started and don't stop until someone who is more qualified than you turns up.
100% correct

maviczap 09-01-11 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Biker Biggles (Post 2456385)
I prefere "Spirit in the Sky"
Altogether more appropriate.:D
Bit slow methinks ;)

B1k3R 09-01-11 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by maviczap (Post 2456367)
But you must be aware of vacarious liability - ie if you go to help someone if you're trained and get it wrong they could sue you - charming.

So some doctors may avoid getting involved, and leave it to the Paramedics to deal with.

Unlike someone who is untrained, is looked on as a good samaritan.

Something to thank the 'where's there's blame, there's a claim' culture
Sorry but +1 on this. Even that big fat bloke is suing the NHS for "letting" him get too fat. Here serious pie eater.


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