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dizzyblonde 01-02-11 12:58 PM

Re: Question for the legal / renting brains here.
 
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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 2473030)
Ed, as an aside to the main topic, if you let your house, via an agency or any other way, can you legally state "No DSS tenants" or similar? (edit, YC seems to think so...;))

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Not all DSS tenants are like this, so don't stereotype them.

But yes, you can request pretty much what you want, no DSS, no pets, No smokers, no small children etc

What you can't say is, no polish vodka parties, no Armenian families, or no families wishing to remove skirting boards to provide more space for beds, and no using the loft space to hide illegal tenants for brass on the side ;)

yorkie_chris 01-02-11 12:58 PM

Re: Question for the legal / renting brains here.
 
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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 2473030)
Ed, as an aside to the main topic, if you let your house, via an agency or any other way, can you legally state "No DSS tenants" or similar? (edit, YC seems to think so...;))

Not saying it is legal, most of the ones I've seen have been in the little ads in shop, papers etc where the law doesn't really come into it.
Can't say I blame them, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some damn hippy law to try and tell you who you're allowed to rent your house out to.

yorkie_chris 01-02-11 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzyblonde (Post 2473036)
Not all DSS tenants are like this, so don't stereotype them.

Like I said, a significant minority.

There are lots who are doing their best, but lots more just over the hill from me who I wouldn't trust to walk to the shop for a mars bar.

the_lone_wolf 01-02-11 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzyblonde (Post 2473036)
Not all DSS tenants are like this, so don't stereotype them.

Logic my dear, logic

I never said all DSS tenants are problematic

I said pretty much all the problematic tenants I've heard about have been DSS

Innit...

dizzyblonde 01-02-11 01:03 PM

Re: Question for the legal / renting brains here.
 
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Originally Posted by Owenski (Post 2473035)
Leaving cats unattended in the house which seem to have caused most the damage/stains.

Theres a house over the road from me which was rented out. Smudge looked at it once, it used to be nice. Then a lass from down the street got evicted from the council, went there with made up references, and pretty much turned it into a sh1thole. Did the same as what she did to the council house, dog and cat crap everywhere, nappies piled upto the rafters and had her sister, fella and kids living there at one point etc( so thats four adults, six kids, three dogs and countless cats in a three bed house). She did a bunk owing over a months rent and damage to the house. They had to gut it and wisely put it up for sale...its still not sold

Owenski 01-02-11 01:06 PM

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Ed,
as she's DSS and like you said she wont have any money, what would happen if the courst catch her and my friend wins. Is it an instant £3500 payout or is it relative to the accused, ie cos she's broke my mate still gets nowt?

the_lone_wolf 01-02-11 01:08 PM

Re: Question for the legal / renting brains here.
 
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Originally Posted by Owenski (Post 2473043)
Ed,
as she's DSS and like you said she wont have any money, what would happen if the courst catch her and my friend wins. Is it an instant £3500 payout or is it relative to the accused, ie cos she's broke my mate still gets nowt?

If the DSS are paying her rent can he not go after them? Are they not a kind of guarantor?

Bit of an oversight if not, as the DSS would have no incentive to keep the people they're paying for housing for in check...

Sadly I think I can already guess the answer...:(

Owenski 01-02-11 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf (Post 2473046)
If the DSS are paying her rent can he not go after them? Are they not a kind of guarantor?

Bit of an oversight if not, as the DSS would have no incentive to keep the people they're paying for housing for in check...

Sadly I think I can already guess the answer...:(

Good question all the same, Ed if you could advise on this too that would be awsome.

I've said similar to my friend, something along the lines of:
If the DSS pay her the rent to pay to you but it never makes it to you is she not in effect stealing from the DSS?

Drew Carey 01-02-11 01:14 PM

Re: Question for the legal / renting brains here.
 
Sorry to hear about this for your friend. But personally, I think he is really going to struggle to get what is owed to him, as has been said, even if he wins - they will only pay a fraction per month. The agency is only liable for what is in the contract - usually the deposit alone.

Personally, if it was me, I would clean it myself, think about repairs myself - ie instead of replacing with like, downgrade on carpets etc - would be amazed how little you can make somewhere respectable with cleaning alone. Then get it fixed up and re-rented ASAP. This time around to "No DSS".

Owenski 01-02-11 01:19 PM

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not far off the advice I've given him, only I finished with get it on the market and leave it vacent... it'll cost you less.

Im waiting for Ed's view of it though, quite interesting in knowing if Rich (the friend) will be waisting his time/money trying to recover his losses.


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