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carelesschucca 30-09-13 12:25 PM

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Its unfortunate for Dani that he's had this crash and finished this seasons championship chances. I see that he's said in a round about way that he thinks Marc is verging on dangerous. Just like Marco was, wonder if Dani would be happier if they just did time trials and no one came near him...

I just hope that nothing comes from it as last i heard race direction were looking into the incident.

Amadeus 30-09-13 02:10 PM

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Yeah I saw that but it looked to everyone that he did!

NTECUK 30-09-13 03:58 PM

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Well 2nd is better than DNF .
And its a bit bin or win for Marc.
so you'ed forgive jorge for not wanting to risk it all.

On the plus side Scot is still going great gun s in Moto 2

Amadeus 30-09-13 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by carelesschucca (Post 2908146)
. I see that he's said in a round about way that he thinks Marc is verging on dangerous. Just like Marco was, wonder if Dani would be happier if they just did time trials and no one came near him...

What did he say?

DJ123 30-09-13 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Basket (Post 2907964)
Shows how dependent electronics are in motogp. I bet Honda armour plate the cable next time.

Pedrosa is unlucky. And u cant do much about that.

But thing about Marquez as he has the skills but also the aggression and sheer fear factor. Lorenzo let him pass because its easier than getting knocked off! He has the skills of Stoner and the sheer lunacy of Simoncelli. Lorenzo and Pedrosa are never up for a dogfight and this is where Marquez excels and will always give him an edge.

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Originally Posted by The Basket (Post 2907993)
Pedrosa I have watched for a long time..He isnt a crazy like Marquez and he doesnt mind 2nd. Marquez will happily run you over for 1st. Also Pedrosa injures like glass and I am glad he got away from this unscathed as it could have been very nasty.

Pedrosa will ride for Honda next year but Marquez will only get better and he seems to bounce well and have plenty of luck. I will say that Marquez is the perfect motorcycle racer who has all the goods. Only weakness is that he is too aggressive but he is getting away with it.

I don't think Marquez is that good. Currently I think he is like Vettel (we'll see in a season or 2's time) Good at the front, but not great when it comes to fighting the way through the pack. He's never been down the field (10th or below) and hasn't had to fight his way through the field to the front in a race. He's started at the front and finished there. If he does something similar to what Rossi managed in the 1st race of the season, he'll show some real racing knowledge and racing skill.

Amadeus 30-09-13 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by daddyjob (Post 2908254)
I don't think Marquez is that good. Currently I think he is like Vettel (we'll see in a season or 2's time) Good at the front, but not great when it comes to fighting the way through the pack. He's never been down the field (10th or below) and hasn't had to fight his way through the field to the front in a race. He's started at the front and finished there. If he does something similar to what Rossi managed in the 1st race of the season, he'll show some real racing knowledge and racing skill.

I think you're wrong.
On the bbc fairly recently (last 3 races) there was footage where he started at the back (penalty?) and by the time he got to the first corner he had overtaken 10 riders. Can't remember the course and couldn't be 100% sure it was Marquez, but I think it was.
As you said tho, he's not had to battle through lots of riders on a regular basis.
I actually think that crutchlow isn't great at taking other riders on. Did he ever overtake Dovi when they were on the same team?

DJ123 30-09-13 08:21 PM

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He did a couple of times I think. Cal is a 'big guy' and has a bit of a deficit in terms of the PTW ratio. I think he's a good rider and has the right attitude, it's a shame that so far he has yet to reap the rewards. Hopefully at Ducati something will come together and provide him with at least a race win.

Amadeus 30-09-13 08:28 PM

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I like Cal as well - I really hope I'm wrong but I think he will generally be behind Dovi.

Pedrosa 01-10-13 02:00 PM

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Marquez is a little sheet! Punto pelota! Might just be first rookie to win champ ship since Curly Roberts in 1976.

carelesschucca 01-10-13 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Amadeus (Post 2908212)
What did he say?

http://www.bikesportnews.com/news-de...t&newsid=10584


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