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yellowspanner 18-11-04 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Grinch
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Originally Posted by Ceri JC
Just out of interest, what's the fastest you (generally) filter at in fair conditions where the traffic is stopped or absolutely crawling?

Never go higher than the posted limit.. and it all depends on the speed of the traffic and your location... if I'm filtering inbetween cars in a 40... then I expect my max is 20.
But I don't worry to much as if I'm looking at the speedo I'm not looking at the people in front and that when splat happens. So I go with what feels safe., and keep a eye out for everything.

I have to say that as long as I'm making progress through a queue then I'm happy. Its all play it by ear though isn't it. A stopped q on wide dual carriageway I'll quite happily blat through at 20. Other times I'm down to walking pace....

amarko5 19-11-04 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by howardr
stay way out in the middle of the opposite lane.

Would that not be an offence :shock: driving on the wrong side of the road :P :lol:

Grinch 19-11-04 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by howardr
stay way out in the middle of the opposite lane.

Would that not be an offence :shock: driving on the wrong side of the road :P :lol:

Its not a offence to drive on the wrong side of the road.. as long as the road is clear and the vanishing point and visibility is good. They teach you to use all of the road in advanced training. I was told this on my CBT as was my wife.
Remember its called the highway CODE.

Patch 19-11-04 11:58 PM

The most useful thing that I gou out of the NEC show was a little card with a link to the WhiteDalton web site and this information in particular

http://www.whitedalton.co.uk/overtaking.htm

I recommend that if you filter, you have read it, it is the best explaination of the legal position and what your insurance company will do in the event of an accident, why they will do it and why you do not have to accept what they say.

Stig 20-11-04 12:41 AM

I filter every opportunity I get, but ALWAYS look for the one that didn't see me. Unfortunately experience has made me wise

chutz 20-11-04 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigApe
I filter every opportunity I get, but ALWAYS look for the one that didn't see me. Unfortunately experience has made me wise

That is the whole of the debate. Look out for everyone else's mistakes because they are the ones that will hurt you. Filter as much as you feel safe in doing. Don't rush, ask yourself "do I really need to pass these cars" and make a safe choice. I filter all the time but I go into "filter mode" where every car is a danger and I presume they all want to have me off the bike. :wink:

curium 23-11-04 11:07 AM

I always put my hi-beam on as I know from driving a car that often its the glint of light that reflects off the wing mirror you see out the corner of your eyes that makes you aware a motorcyclists is coming.

lynw 23-11-04 12:08 PM

I couldnt do my commute in the morning in under 2.5 hours if I didnt filter... I start on the m20 around maidstone at a speed which is around the speed limit... and it continues via m25 and a2... by the time I get to angel Ive practically filtered at various speeds from maidstone...

speed and how is dependant on conditions (ie never in torrential rain) and speed of traffic and how the traffic is driving....

if the drivers are particularly dopey or the light isnt good have full lights on - now often use my hibeam - and I move a little side to side to make sure the glint reflects in the wing mirrors of the cars im approaching....

my other recommendation if you do a lot of filtering is get a very loud can... it makes such a big difference.... they know somethings there and they do tend on the whole to look before they change lane... and it sounds good in the tunnels :D

Balky001 23-11-04 02:32 PM

For me, filtering is a great part of the biking experience and cuts a car commute of around 2 hours to a managable 40 minutes for me. I think its almost impossible to generalise what's safe and what isn't if decent progress is to be made, just be aware of surrounds, car position (you can often tell by the car's body language what the driver's going to do) and assume nothing. I too use full beam if on a dual carriageway and passing quickly. On single carriage way, definately use the other lane if same, watch out for cars turning left (quickly, no indication of course!) coming on the the road in front of you as they wont expect a bike travelling the wrong way down the road

I've said previously that I don't believe loud cans are that effective but any assitance to bring your presence to the attention of a dozy driver is good. So I've whacked on a Remus Grand Prix can and K&N air filter to my GSXR600, purely for safety reasons. Nice!

Ratty 24-11-04 02:02 AM

I'm not an aggresive filterer. I do my bit but when does filtering become illegal (ie overtaking on the inside) :?: I see people talking about filtering at speed on duel carriageways, but surely this is prosecutable. Can someone post a link or a few expert words that explains the law :?:

Thanks Ratty

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