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caines 19-01-05 11:22 PM

I wear a hooded top sometimes, does it make me a thief lol? Although I get followed by the police alot, in fact if Im honest I purposely try to look shady when I see them :lol:

I know what you mean though I saw this guy the other day on an SV and his driving was so terrible, in fact I was so shocked at how bad he was I just stayed behind to observe this 'poetry in motion'! He managed to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, all of the time. I wont mention anymore in case he's a member lol

caines 19-01-05 11:26 PM

although it does sound dodgy, I presume he nearly fell off by giving it too much back brake and locking up the back wheel, thats a newbie trait. When I first got the SV I kept locking up the rear and wobbling all the gaff but if I went to something faster I wouldnt be making mistakes like that. Surely no one goes straight to a 749

Ceri JC 21-01-05 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by caines
although it does sound dodgy, I presume he nearly fell off by giving it too much back brake and locking up the back wheel, thats a newbie trait. When I first got the SV I kept locking up the rear and wobbling all the gaff but if I went to something faster I wouldnt be making mistakes like that. Surely no one goes straight to a 749

Yes, It's a n00b thing to be underuse the front brake (and consequently lock up the back). Even warns against it in the manual! I admit I did it for the first month or so... :oops:

RE: No one going to a 749. Someone at my riding school went straight to an R1. :shock:

Flamin_Squirrel 21-01-05 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceri JC
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Originally Posted by caines
although it does sound dodgy, I presume he nearly fell off by giving it too much back brake and locking up the back wheel, thats a newbie trait. When I first got the SV I kept locking up the rear and wobbling all the gaff but if I went to something faster I wouldnt be making mistakes like that. Surely no one goes straight to a 749

Yes, It's a n00b thing to be underuse the front brake (and consequently lock up the back). Even warns against it in the manual! I admit I did it for the first month or so... :oops:

RE: No one going to a 749. Someone at my riding school went straight to an R1. :shock:

Are they still alive?

wyrdness 21-01-05 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceri JC
RE: No one going to a 749. Someone at my riding school went straight to an R1. :shock:

There was someone at mine who went straight from the riding schools CG125 to an electra-glide. Admittedly nowhere near as fast as an R1, but much, much heavier.

Ceri JC 21-01-05 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel
Are they still alive?

I dunno- I spoke to one of the instructors a while after they graduated and they said he had called back in to thank them for training him and he had been boasting about doing 130mph on the motorway. :roll:

So I suppose the answer is; I don't know for sure, but I'd assume he is dead. :?

wyrdness 21-01-05 04:42 PM

A friend of mine is a lifetime biker - he's been riding since the 60's, and lives right by the A4 in Wiltshire. He told me about an accident that had happened a few yards from his house. The guy had passed his test in the morning, picked up his new bonneville at lunchtime and killed himself in the afternoon, riding at nearly 100mph into the back of a car.

Steve H 21-01-05 04:51 PM

Happy thoughts! :?
Unfortunately, too common. Ex Superbike rider Niall Mackenzie tested the new ZX10R not so long ago and even he said its is WAY too much as a roadbike, and he knows what he's doing! :shock:

jambo 21-01-05 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wyrdness
The guy had passed his test in the morning, picked up his new bonneville at lunchtime and killed himself in the afternoon, riding at nearly 100mph into the back of a car.

This is kinda the problem, when you're new you can end up putting yourself nto situations you do not have the skill / experiance to handle. This is not a bike specific thing, just an attitude one, I was very cautious for quite a while after passing because I knew I didn't know what I was doing, and this was on an easy going bike.

The problem is in part, that going fast on a bike is easy, the faster you go the more stable, the happier the bike seems in a straight line, then you suddenly need to drop 60mph and dive right and you don't have the skill set to know how the bike will react. The trouble with getting on a very fast bike right away is that it will go even quicker and the 1st time you encounter a problem it will be too late to do anything on a slower, softer bike you have that extra couple of seconds or few mph less to help you out

ArtyLady 21-01-05 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jambo
This is kinda the problem, when you're new you can end up putting yourself nto situations you do not have the skill / experiance to handle. This is not a bike specific thing, just an attitude one, I was very cautious for quite a while after passing because I knew I didn't know what I was doing, and this was on an easy going bike.

The problem is in part, that going fast on a bike is easy, the faster you go the more stable, the happier the bike seems in a straight line, then you suddenly need to drop 60mph and dive right and you don't have the skill set to know how the bike will react. The trouble with getting on a very fast bike right away is that it will go even quicker and the 1st time you encounter a problem it will be too late to do anything on a slower, softer bike you have that extra couple of seconds or few mph less to help you out

I agree - Mr Mumstoy has had nearly 30 continuous years experience of riding and he sometimes gets caught out by the awesome power of his Daytona 955i :shock: :)


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