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Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle

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Originally Posted by Baph (Post 1134037)

Britain is one degree Celsius cooler now than it was at the time of the Domesday book.

Isn't one of the effects of "so called" global warming tha Britain will get colder because of the decline of the Gulf Stream ?

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Those eejits predicted weather in 50 years time. How? That is simply impossible. I checked the weather last week and today was supposed to be fine. Wrong. If they can't predict weather in 5 days then 50 years can only be sheer stupidity

Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle

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Originally Posted by tricky (Post 1134048)

Isn't one of the effects of "so called" global warming tha Britain will get colder because of the decline of the Gulf Stream ?

The gulf stream has been declining for years, yes. But how do we know this is caused by the greenhouse effect?

Climate records show that the gulf stream has completely stopped in the past.

If the Gulf Stream stops, the Arctic temperatures drop. Surely this is just part of mother natures "Oh crap I'd better do something, the ice caps are getting a little too small" instinct. What's to say it's caused by us? What's to say it's not?

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Global warming weakens the circulation because increased mel****er from Greenland and the Arctic icesheets along with greater river run-off from Russia pour into the northern Atlantic and make it less saline which in turn makes it harder for the cooler water to sink, in effect slowing down the engine that drives the current.

But the ice sheets are constantly expanding & contracting all year round, as the programme last night said, we only ever hear about bits falling off, because it makes for good viewing. Who wants to sit & watch water turning to ice? That'd be like paying a TV licence to watch paint dry!

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"The only way computer models have managed to simulate an entire shutdown of the current is to magic into existence millions of tonnes of fresh water and dump it in the Atlantic. It's not clear where that water could ever come from, even taking into account increased Greenland melting."

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The final impact of any cooling effect will depend on whether it outweighs the global warming that, paradoxically, is driving it.

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What this program really showed is that the "experts"actually know little more than the rest of us about what is going on.Just like experts in most fields(economics child abuse healthcare you name it)they are only a bunch of largely self appointed and very self opinionated jobs for the boys types.With apologies to some brilliant comedians(how apt)they are a self perpetuating oligarchy whose main interest is to keep the rest of us in awe of them.What basis is that for a system of government?:mad:

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Even if the scientists are wrong about the causes and effects of "Global Warming" we shouldn't stop being environmentally conscious, recycling etc, and most importantly, trying to make non-renewable energy sources last as long as possible...

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Absolutely agree with that,but we don't need an army of experts to teach us common sense.

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The program has nothing to do with recycling. It has everything to do with our day to day life. All major political parties are using the CO2 causing "global warming" so called green policy to tax us more on every aspect of our living. Ken Livingston used that excuse also to widen his congestion charge zoon which is set to be followed by every major city. More fuel tax, gadgets to track where you have been and tax you on the bases of that etc etc.

I think the program showed us that the assumption of “global warming caused by CO2 produced by human” is simply not true. And evidance have shown that sun’s activity directly influrenced the warming of earth in the past history.

Why should anyone accept the increase on “globle warming” aspect of green tax when you know that it is only a lie to get more tax from us?

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cos its all about money and money equals power and while we are all running round concerned about the enviroment we are having our gaze diverted away from other matters. Like the fact our troops are getting battered in sh#tholes like Iraq and Afghanistan. I mean the planet has been around for what 4 billion years ? are we really supposed to believe that 150 yrs of industrialisation has wrecked the earth ? sorry dont think so :mad:

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i've got to see this C4 programme....would love to take baph up on a few points but i'd better see the prog before jumping in, that may answer my initial thoughts.

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