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fizzwheel 02-04-07 03:55 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
Its not about how low you lean over, its more about how far you hang off.

I've been trying on and off for 2 years and I still cant do it... best way to do it is to go to a club racing day, go in the pits and find a rider with sliders like yours, offer him your new ones for his or hers part worn scuffed ones and then swap over.

Ta dah !!!!

or do a track day. Its hard to do it on the road I'm finding I concentrate to much on trying to do it to the detriment of my riding, best find a big smooth roundabout somewhere quiet and just ride round and round and round it leaning over a litle more each time until you feel comfortable with the bike lent right over.

sinbad 02-04-07 04:00 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
30 is fast enough if the turn is very tight, but don't try going through a 60mph corner at 30 and attempt to have the bike leaned right over :) Because it will lean right over.
Find a corner/roundabout you like and ride through it quickly a few times without trying. Then you'll know how much you'll have to force it if you don't intend to go any quicker than that. Make sure your tyres are up to temp too. Just remember, knee-down isn't the be all and end all. Get your knee down and there's a gazillion riders who'd still own you without their knee getting close. (Not a comment on how fast you ride btw, I have no idea, it's just a general observation, and totally applies to me :) ).

John 675 02-04-07 04:15 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sinbad (Post 1151773)
30 is fast enough if the turn is very tight, but don't try going through a 60mph corner at 30 and attempt to have the bike leaned right over :) Because it will lean right over.
Find a corner/roundabout you like and ride through it quickly a few times without trying. Then you'll know how much you'll have to force it if you don't intend to go any quicker than that. Make sure your tyres are up to temp too. Just remember, knee-down isn't the be all and end all. Get your knee down and there's a gazillion riders who'd still own you without their knee getting close. (Not a comment on how fast you ride btw, I have no idea, it's just a general observation, and totally applies to me :) ).

Can totaly see what your saying, i have just had one idea what it could of been, maybe i let off the throttle that little bit which dropped the power, and the bike mid corner, but maybe i could hang off more so the bike doesnt have to go that far.... Haga does it lol, on his nice WSB bike....:(

Alpinestarhero 02-04-07 04:22 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
The more speed you carry through the corner, the more you'll have to lean. The more you lean, the closer your knee comes to touching the tarmac.

If you force it, you risk upsetting the bike and having an off, so just persevere!

Is your "haning off" style correct aswell? There was a guide posted on here about positioning ourself for hanigng off correctly in order to "get your knee down"

I dont remember the link though, someone else might?

Matt

Jelster 02-04-07 04:30 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
If you're a short @rse like me, with leg length deficiency then it's hard to do it. I've only ever done it a couple of times and that was when I wasn't thinking about it, just concentrating on getting round the bend.

I know it's a "rights of passage" thing for a biker, but it's a lot to do with your riding style, you're cornering technique and your physical size.

I've given up worrying about it now, just ride how I want to ride and if it happens, well, that's a bonus.

.

kwak zzr 02-04-07 04:33 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
ive tryed for years on various bikes but have now given up due to some very close calls with tarmac.

John 675 02-04-07 04:42 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero (Post 1151795)
The more speed you carry through the corner, the more you'll have to lean. The more you lean, the closer your knee comes to touching the tarmac.

If you force it, you risk upsetting the bike and having an off, so just persevere!

Is your "haning off" style correct aswell? There was a guide posted on here about positioning ourself for hanigng off correctly in order to "get your knee down"

I dont remember the link though, someone else might?

Matt

yeah i checked it out, i think the nearest track day might be of use lol, o maybe i should just adopth the lean in style :D

Tomcat 02-04-07 05:36 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
I think if you trying that hard then either your riding position is not a knee down type position(I wouldnt say wrong, because personally I am not into knee down!) or the speed/line wasnt quite right. I touched the peg cornering on the cat on Sunday, and I can honestly say that my knee wasnt down, but I certainly didnt feel I was falling, it felt awsome! its just your own personal technique.

I could feel the rear of the bike kind of getting underneath me and pushing round, no effort, just speed and good line, it felt awsome ...... but the knee wasnt down,does that matter ..... nar, I was well banked over and it felt great without all that hanging off ..... and the guy behind me was laughing his socks off when we stopped, don't think he was expecting it!;)

Relax with yourself, brillo pad the sliders, and enjoy the day it happens, don't force it else you will hit the tarmac, or just look a tw*t trying !:smt045

ASM-Forever 02-04-07 05:51 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
I would say that its definitely something you shouldn't force. You will feel an **** when you have scrubbed the bike :)

Im not really one for getting my knee down, but i can and occasionally do. There is one corner on an A-road near me that is gagging for it! Like people have said find a fast desolate corner.

First time i did it i went into a corner a bit fast and had to lean the bike to get round it, without dropping loads of speed. Ruined a new pair of jeans though but felt cool for a while(Yes i know riding in jeans...naughty man). My mate who was riding behind assured me i looked an ****....terrible thing jealousy!

Good luck with it :)

Stig 02-04-07 05:53 PM

Re: That falling feeling (bike leaning question)
 
It's very difficult for someone to give advice on the forum and then for that person to interpret the information correctly and go out and try it.

The best way by far is for you to go with someone that can do it. Find a nice roundabout that is hardly ever used and for you to do your best and him to watch. Then him to give you pointers and for you to try again.

Steve, it really does not have much to do with height at all. I am one of the shortest people out there and there has not been a bike that I have not been able to get my knee down yet. It is more technique and correct rider position, road position and speed. Get these three things sorted and you'll get your knee down.



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