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MCN_LiamM 03-06-09 10:47 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 1928339)
It must be down to riding styles as fuel seems to be the same, people chase the elusive 200 miles per tank, I tend to do 180+ miles between fuelling and based on whats left I should top 200 at least 75% of the time!

but that is reflected in my tyres, I'm at 9k on a set of PR2s and I'd say they have quite a bit of life left in them but my riding consists of a 30 mile commute and weekend/pleasure rides, totalling 13k/year.

So my only conclusion is I ride like an old woman :confused: :)

216 miles between fuellings with an estimated 262 total for the remaining was my personal best, most boring week of my life LOL

WTF. I'm restricted and the light on my naked K5 starts flashing at around 105 miles. How do you get 200?!

Paul the 6th 03-06-09 10:50 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
6th gear at 40mph... forever?

ophic 03-06-09 10:59 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
top gear at a constant 70mph will give you easily 200 miles on a tank.

MCN_LiamM 03-06-09 11:02 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ophic (Post 1929229)
top gear at a constant 70mph will give you easily 200 miles on a tank.

But 70 feels slow

Owenski 03-06-09 11:05 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Speirs (Post 1928148)
I only got about 4500 miles from my Road Attack rear.

is that cos you stuck it in an amrco and set fire to it?

Brettus 03-06-09 11:05 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
I've not paid attention to when it starts flashing but I usually do 30-40 miles after it starts before I fuel up, and still have a reasonable amount of breathing room (according to my calculations at least) I don't understand the vast differences, I think there must be some oddities with years, or size of something in the tank to reduce fuel space perhaps?

back to tyres, do people regularly spin theirs up or something? I know my bike has plenty more ability than I do, my chicken strips attest that but I do give it the beans out of the corners and I don't hang about. I just can't get my head around the disparity here, the gap is immense. understandable with different bikes and whatnot but even on the SV theres a huge gap (fortunately I don't seem to be the only one on the longer wearing side of things as carty seems as perplexed as me :confused:)

Brettus 03-06-09 11:08 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Re the top gear at 70 I could understand if I commuted on a motorway or such but my route is country roads with short sections of main A roads, usually pretty well up and down the rev range too. very weird this stuff :)

ophic 03-06-09 11:12 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
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Originally Posted by MCN_LiamM (Post 1929233)
But 70 feels slow

It was 2 days of hell, i can tell you. But like Brettus, I was experimenting with fuel economy. I do high mileage, so it counts. Since then, the good intentions have gone totally west though :smt077

ThEGr33k 03-06-09 12:01 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MCN_LiamM (Post 1929209)
WTF. I'm restricted and the light on my naked K5 starts flashing at around 105 miles. How do you get 200?!


Thats wrong tbh. :confused:

MCN_LiamM 03-06-09 12:03 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
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Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1929310)
Thats wrong tbh. :confused:

Explain yourself.

EDIT: Maybe I should have said this is from my trip to Barcelona. Between 100-110 miles when the fuel light started to flash.

jamesterror 03-06-09 12:12 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
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Originally Posted by MCN_LiamM (Post 1929209)
WTF. I'm restricted and the light on my naked K5 starts flashing at around 105 miles. How do you get 200?!

Out of a full tank?

I've had 152 from about 13.5ltr then fuel light came on which I got to 185mile then decided to stop pushing it and fill up before I literally was pushing it to the petrol station.

.. Back on topic, I'll see how long my tyres last were next to new when I bought the bike really, I check the PSI every weekend to ensure PSI 33/36 stated in the manual (is within 1.5PSI anyway not exact)

Owenski 03-06-09 12:21 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...34#post1929334

I've set this one up because this little fuel sub topic is quite interesting and Im sure the OP would like his thread back on topic. ;)

kwak zzr 03-06-09 02:03 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
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Originally Posted by Sid Squid (Post 1928832)
It's not about speed, it's about smooth - learn to ride right and you'll get the best out of the bike, and the consumables. I got 8000 from a Road Attack rear on an SV1000.

Also bear in mind suspension - a knackered shock will kill a tyre extra quick

see i'm not a old woman i'm SMOOTH!

Jase22 03-06-09 07:26 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
I thought I rode fairly smooth, although I do also ride fairly hard and I do like to give it a bit when accelerating around corners and coming off roundabouts.

Perhaps that's the answer?

The next question might be a reasonably accurate way to answer that. If you get zillions of miles (about 8-9k +) from your tyres, on a rideout which "group" do you find yourself within? And the same with those who seem to wear their tyres in about 3-5k.

When I've been out, I generally tend to find myself in the group with the more spirited riders.

carty 04-06-09 08:38 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
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Originally Posted by Jase22 (Post 1929890)
The next question might be a reasonably accurate way to answer that. If you get zillions of miles (about 8-9k +) from your tyres, on a rideout which "group" do you find yourself within? And the same with those who seem to wear their tyres in about 3-5k.

When I've been out, I generally tend to find myself in the group with the more spirited riders.

That's very subjective depending on who's on the rideout, one group thinking they're 'hooning' is another group's bimble :-k

ophic 04-06-09 09:29 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Let's lob another factor into the equation that i don't think has been mentioned yet. Weather. Surely, as water is a lubricant (as we all know) the tyres will wear less in wet weather. Additionally, we ride more carefully in the wet - slower, extra smooth, etc. Is there a marked difference in tyre life between all-weather and fair-weather riders?

Grinch 04-06-09 10:43 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
I get upto 9k out of the RA, but then I do about 300 miles a week. 150 miles motorway and the rest is town work... I'm a lot less in a rush then most people in London so that probably helps.

inspectorgadget 04-06-09 04:02 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Sigh! Not working, sold my SV1000, but still have the 650.... I did 25k over a 2 year period commuting to London from Surrey on my K3 & got on average 6000 miles out of my road attack rears & 160 miles per tank of super duper unleaded & I thrashed it nearly all the time :) Mind you, it was 75% M25/M3 work & my rear tyre always looked look like a square afterwards. BTW need to change it now & thinkin about going up to a 170 rear, the 160 looks so pitiful :laughat: anyone know if that is possible & the effects?

Jamiebridges123 04-06-09 04:04 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
I doubt you'd get a 170 on the standard rim, it's already pinched enough.. fit a Bandit 12 wheel and spacers and fit a 120/70 front end so you have a 120/70 and 180/55 setup. Also means it'll have more grip but feel slower to turn and a little less responsive, more stable.

inspectorgadget 04-06-09 04:29 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
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Originally Posted by Jamiebridges123 (Post 1930932)
I doubt you'd get a 170 on the standard rim, it's already pinched enough.. fit a Bandit 12 wheel and spacers and fit a 120/70 front end so you have a 120/70 and 180/55 setup.

Is it really that much trouble! I'll probably stick to squaring off the 160 :)

yorkie_chris 04-06-09 08:02 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Stick a 170 on and it will square off faster because it will be pinched a lot more.

TheShadow 05-06-09 08:07 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
I have never had more than 800 miles to a rear tyre on my SV , doesnt really bother me as thats what bikes are for having fun.

Currently trying out my first sports touring the AVON AV56 Storm. I will report back on how many miles it does.

carty 05-06-09 08:12 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShadow (Post 1931560)
I have never had more than 800 miles to a rear tyre on my SV

Then you my friend, need to take a serious look at your riding if that doesn't include trackdays :-dd

Holdup 05-06-09 09:25 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheShadow (Post 1931560)
I have never had more than 800 miles to a rear tyre on my SV , doesnt really bother me as thats what bikes are for having fun.

Currently trying out my first sports touring the AVON AV56 Storm. I will report back on how many miles it does.

WTF! do you do rolling burnouts on all your journeys :rolleyes:

I checked my depths yesterday after just under 3k miles my tyres have done and front sides have 1.7mm and middle is over 2mm

Rear sides 5mm middle 3mm :scratch:

ricky_t 07-06-09 11:12 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
I think it is a combination of riding styles.

I have done 2 trackdays and had 2 summers worth of riding and there is still tread left in my metzeler z6. On the trackday some people were amazed by that fact especially after overtaking them. ;)

thedonal 07-06-09 11:27 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Riding style- sounds about right.

If you ride like Lewis Hamilton drives, then your tyres will shred like his!

If you ride like Jenson Button drives, your tyres will experience everlasing joy!

I guess its tyre types too- the OP compares same tyres with other riders, but there's a difference between the rubber on sport and sport touring tyres- touring will last much longer.

I got about 8-9000 from my rear 020 (it was illegal when changed, but not down to canvas. Done that before. >shudders!<). Front is still going. Reckon I've got about another 1-1.5k miles left on it.

Got an 021 on the back- claimed 10% more mileage. So should last until about June/July next year.

I commute mostly on mine- but I do love the acceleration, so could probably get another 1000 out of the rear if I was smoother. Breaking- I prefer to use the engine, but depends on the situation.

Amplimator 07-06-09 11:30 AM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
i never get through tyres......ever!

i always seem to change bike before new tyres are needed :p

northwind 07-06-09 02:33 PM

Re: How do people get so many miles out of their tyres?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jase22 (Post 1928356)
Glad to see there's a few people getting similar mileage to me, although still bemused how you can achieve twice that. I commute on my bike daily and use the bike for pleasure when I get chance, riding style may be I suppose, but it's boring to commute at grandad pace!

You don't have to ride like a grandad, just have to be a bit smooth... Kitkat mentions up the page that she gets loads of miles, but doesn't mention how she did it- she just doesn't slow down for the corners so she doesn't have to accelerate or brake :cool: I burned a sportec rear in about 2000 miles one summer, but I get about 8000-9000 from a Strada or similiar.

Tyre pressures make a big difference.too- a lot of people run the ST rubber at higher pressures, I find it makes them (well, the stradas and roadtecs that I've used lately) more stable without sacrificing grip, so I run the rear usually at 39psi (I once dropped the roadtec to 33 as recommended at a trackday and it was horrible, felt flexy and wobbly on the power, so offputting I was hitting the end of the straight about 10mph slower than I would usually and losing several seconds a lap as I was never happy to gun it out of corners)

I have a feeling that the road attacks don't take well to harder riding, having seen a couple of sets basically melt on track- I chased a guy on a 600 of some sort for most of a session, me on roadtecs and him on road attacks, at the end his tyres looked like a melted candle and mine were barely smeared. He lost a load of pace towards the end of the session and said afterwards that he was sliding about all over the place. But, that's not very scientific of course!


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