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When anyone is wrong I will pull them up on it, be it Ralph or anyone else. If you cast your mind back it was me who called Dangerous Dave out on his bullsh1t. I'm not afraid to speak my mind within the rules and guidelines of the forum (I've never had a warning or a ban) and don't give a crap who it is to, be they a brick sh1thouse or someone my own size. I don't kiss ar5e like some, and I'm proud to be able to hold my head high in the knowledge that I'm no sycophant. If some people don't like me I don't care, there are plenty who do - I have no time for ar5e lickers anyway.

When I know I am right I will argue the toss, maybe Ralph should ensure his facts are correct before he wades into any discussion with me. Better still he ought to put me back on ignore, which is where I though I was until today.

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There's nothing to sort out by PM Fizz, everyone knows what I think of Lozzo and I'm not afraid to say it. You won't find an thread where it was me who came in cannons blazing and not Lozzo. He does it all the time, and to other people not just me, I'm not the common denominator here. I don't see why I should shut up and put up when he starts being an rrsss TBH.

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So you both put each other on ignore and get over it then.

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how to argue like matt yokes spring to mind after reading this from when i posted last night

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Not a surprise to me given the quality of the boots I was foolish enough to buy a few years back.

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I wear a FT leather jacket and I also like dags.

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I disagree with this, I have some FT textile trousers £80 they cost me new and they're really good, like sleeping bags around your legs! I came off in them (35mph) without a scrape and they remained intact. Can't comment on their leathers or anything else though.

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you two need your heads banging together that's what my mum used to say to me and my bro, lol.
As to FT, how sad, so sad, bye bye.

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+1
I have a textile trousers and coat that are brilliant. Has kept me warm and dry is some horrible weather. Also i'm not a pikey either, due to the fact i'm not an Irish traveller, gypsy or a person of low social class.

Ste.

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I only feel sad for a few people who were employed by them who might now find themselves unemployed. The management could all go to hell for all I care, and that's the general opinion of virtually everyone in the bike trade I've spoken to in recent times.

If FT went under completely they won't be missed by the trade, that's for sure

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I'm looking forward to the "Is lozzo a w*nker? " poll.




:D



Someone mentioned Lewis leathers, that might have been who I was thinking of when I mentioned Raven (either that or Lewis and Raven are the same company)

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Methinks the administrators will have a job selling FT as a going concern judging by the tone of this thread.
Oxford Products will be delighted, bit I'll shed a tear - a crocodile tear.

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Don't need a poll - he is :)

Also having met him on a number of occasions I know that he's not just some guy hiding behind a keyboard.

What you DO get different in real life is that he's a genuine guy that just happens to not hide his real thoughts on things behing fake politeness.

So yeah, I doubt that there are few people who know him who haven't thought that he's a self abuser at some point, but most of them would consider him a good friend.

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SK on the other hand....



;)

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I don't give a monkies about the fashionistas who say FT gear is crap, it ain't.
I grant you you it's not the best but it's value for money, and it does the job.
It doesn't look too bad, it's safe, and if FT upsets a few upmarket brands in the trade - tough luck.
I don't wear Levi 501's, Jack Wills hoodies or Armani underwear and I still look the business in my Asda trackie. My vote goes to the value for money and common sense party.
My Grandad was rumoured to be a pikey, but he never hung around for long.

PS: I like the exchanges between Ralph and Lozzo. It's funny.

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http://www.neonsumo.com/wp-content/u.../oh-really.jpg

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Got to disagree on all counts.

Take some "race" gloves they were selling. I would not race to the chippie in them, on foot.
The build quality was crap, stitching falling out before I had worn them.

Funny actually the halvarssons I bought instead looked better after a 40mph tumble than the FT ones did in the shop. And they were cheaper!

So fail on quality, QC, price. Value for money? Fackin give over, I'd be better wearing a set of welding gauntlets that cost a fiver.


Call me fashionista? You seen my bike, my kit? :smt082

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Stop falling off your bike, jeez, you'll scuff your Dainese.
(I only

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Wrong again ;)

If your going to have a dig, at least do the research first! lol
;)

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Dainese is as bad as FT! That's got the full on fashionista price tag same as all the other wop sh*t with the same quality as the FT!

I'm anxiously awaiting some proof of the FT quality kit you've had. Would you like some pics of my kit, none of which cost much more than that have been down the road 6 or 7 times apiece and had many thousands miles wear?

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Dig? Not me Guv. Been out on the bike all day in my FT jacket, and was nice and toastie up top. Didn't manage to throw the bike down the road so haven't tested it yet. I'll leave the road tests to you guys. My expensive Armani knickers failed totally to keep the jewels warm. So yet again, over priced fails to win me over.

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I disagree with Lozzo on one thing ( calling soneone that they don't know, a pikey ), other than that he has his opinion on a particular subject which should be respected. I personally don't think he is a w*nk*r, just a person that lets you know what he is thinking at that moment. Good or bad!
Like I have said before, I have a jacket and trousers that has shown to be useful and after 3 years, still in perfect working order.
Must highlight that even so they work brilliantly, they do have small ( funny ) issues. An example is that the trouser left leg is made so the the metal plate on the knee is pointing left rather than straight on.

Wishing everyone well.

Ste.

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You missed the point.

You will never know how good or bad kit is until you really need it and by that point, its too late once you have found out its crap.

If you are happy in your FT kit thats good for you.
I'm happy in my "expensive" (berik) kit that the Northamptonshire police ran me off the road in.
Intensive care and no loss of skin, tested, proven to save body parts and happy to use them again :)

Who cares if its not to everyones tastes?

I mean, some people even like the yellow curvy....

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http://www.blackstreetbbw.com/CurvyB...CollegeTub.jpg
Lol :D

Ste.

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I rest my case....:rolleyes:

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:scratch:I got some FT body armour too, to make up for the limitations in the jacket. Going to bed now, in FT jimmie jams, to think of babe in the yellow t-shirt. Safe riding y'all.

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Opinions are like ********s... Everyone has one.

My old badly fitting 7 year old dainese leathers held together fine when I slid on my **** at 80mph+ so I can vouch for them doing there job despite lots of people bitching them

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I think the only mention of Armani in this thread should be relating to the handbags that are being thrown about left right and centre :rolleyes:


As far as my experience of FT kit goes, bought a pair of summer gloves t'other year, stitching went within a month of wear...and that was when I was just riding pillion, not impressed! I also happen to own a pair of FT boots which although I admit have lasted me three years and are like a pair of slippers, the stitching on the zips fell apart within a few wears again! So clearly, based on my post alone, the answer to all FT's problems is better machinists :p

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Some Frank Thomas stuff is really shonky, but I'm still wearing a pair of FT leather trousers that I bought in the 90's, have ridden tens of thousands of miles in and have been thrown down the road several times. I reckon that they've still got many years of life in them yet.

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You can't buy a machinist in a chinese sweatshop for a bowl of rice a day :-P

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2 bowls...?

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of rice crispies? just for something a bit different?

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And the threat to beat their children too...

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+1 on all of that.

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You're too kind :D

You forgot to mention hung like a horse as well, ffs get it right next time.

Cheque's in the post, cheers bud ;)

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Can i just say lozzo talks ****e, having worked in the motorcycle trade for 20 years , you cant say motrax stuff is crap and oxford good , its both made in the same sweat shops in china , its only the packaging thats changed. the same goes for the clothing BKS cothing made along side alpinestars , i could go on and on
lets just feel for the people who will be out of work

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I have some FT Aquaboots for the winter - essentially they're just wellies shaped to look a bit bike boot-ish :) but they do the job and cost about 40 quid when I get them 5 years or so ago.

I have no intention of having a crash to see how well they perform, but they do seem pretty sturdy, heel protection, nice thick soles, and a reinforced bit on each toe for where the gear lever goes...

I suppose it could be a good time to order another pair just in case they go off the market completely!

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Kindly point out where I have ever said Motrax products are crap and Oxford good? I've slated Motrax (basically FT) management and even pointed out that Oxford and Motrax sell identical products, so your statement holds no water.

FT and BKS clothing is made in far eastern factories that are also used by Alpinestars and Dainese amongst others, which isn't a good thing as they are all made to the same low standards - this is fact and well known in the bike clothing trade. The customer doesn't know this because they think A/stars and Dainese are Italian made as they are Italian companies and they also are led to believe that BKS is still the same high quality gear that was available from the factory in Cornwall.

You probably could go on and on... spouting more ill-informed b0ll0cks, but I'm glad you've stopped.

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Apart from the made in china tag sewn into the back ;)