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FG1 08-02-09 04:42 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Cheers Lozzo.

shonadoll 08-02-09 06:47 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
That does actually look really good. I'm impressed-but I ain't the DIY type so well chuffed with mine.

I do like the "security" I percieve of the Suzuki one, it's throughly bolted down, makes me feel safe. Also, the only reason I went for the sukuki one is no pillions so it'll stay there (the bracket) permanantly, and will just sell with the bike.

It's a good option though, yours, I always thought it would look crap but it's very neat.

Lozzo 08-02-09 06:53 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1776774)
The suzuki one has four bolts that secure the mounting plate directly to the subframe

And every normal Givi system has a simple clip and two prongs securing the box to the rack, which is out in the breeze on two long arms. The Suzuki one is good but it's overkill, basically providing a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Rich 08-02-09 07:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FG1 (Post 1776735)
Here's a side on view so you can see how much room the box takes up, not a lot eh !!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...0/RIMG0107.jpg

Surely a top box packed 10-20kg isn't going to cause as much stress on the pillion seat as a 70-100kg pillion.

I used to fit an oxford tail pack onto my pillion seat that was way overloaded at times (a good 15kg) and about twice as high as the top box. That was secured by a few bungees and some velcro straps i never had any problems. This looks the way forward too me!!

DarrenSV650S 08-02-09 07:28 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Maybe I'm being too cautious but I wouldn't trust that system. But I do agree it looks better

Rich 08-02-09 07:30 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenSV650S (Post 1777090)
Maybe I'm being too cautious but I wouldn't trust that system. But I do agree it looks better

I know what you mean but when you see a tall soft tail pack strapped onto the pillion seat and then see FG1's concept then i think i'd trust his version over the oxford one!!! :mrgreen:

Nobbylad 09-02-09 10:02 AM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozzo (Post 1777036)
And every normal Givi system has a simple clip and two prongs securing the box to the rack, which is out in the breeze on two long arms. The Suzuki one is good but it's overkill, basically providing a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Which is why I went for the SW-Motech rack, it may be more expensive than the other options, but it is more solid and looks better too.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...d/DSCF2084.jpg

FG1 09-02-09 02:09 PM

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Nobby, the only thing I don't like about your solution is that the rack stays on the bike.
The reason I did it my way was so that it could be put back to "normal" in a matter of seconds. Also it keeps the bulk right behind the rider which, I would imagine, helps with any handling issues. And not forgetting the fact that it is significantly cheaper than splashing out on a new rack to take the fixing plate.

plowsie 09-02-09 02:13 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Tony, that looks very good mate. Bet its comfy on the motorway :)

Nobbylad 09-02-09 02:27 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FG1 (Post 1778039)
Nobby, the only thing I don't like about your solution is that the rack stays on the bike.
The reason I did it my way was so that it could be put back to "normal" in a matter of seconds. Also it keeps the bulk right behind the rider which, I would imagine, helps with any handling issues. And not forgetting the fact that it is significantly cheaper than splashing out on a new rack to take the fixing plate.

I know what you're saying, although I tend to pack quite a bit of stuff in my bag so would be worried your (very good) solution might not take it.

I don't think the rack looks too bad when left on (it's far better than the Givi arms) and the plate goes on and off in a matter of seconds. Also, as Nobbylass tends to go pillion quite a lot of the time, it's really the only viable option.

FG1 09-02-09 02:31 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Well, my solution is useless if a pillion needs a seat so Nobby has the neatest solution if a rack "has" to be used.

bryanmurr 09-02-09 04:55 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
nobby, is ur rack screwed into where the grabrail would be. i never use my rear seat, just the seat cowl, i wonder could one be fabricated to use with the motech rack.


shona, does the official suzuki one take any givi box? from a point of view ofpickin one up on ebay:)

FG1 09-02-09 05:25 PM

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I asked around at a few dealers if the Givi box would fit the Suzuki plate and the general opinion was that it is slightly different and not compatible. Admittedly all the answers were a bit vague so I thought, bugger it, do it myself and make a better job.

SV650Racer 09-02-09 05:29 PM

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Yup the Suzuki kit top boxes wont fit the Givi racks and Givi dont do an adaptor.

Nobbylad 09-02-09 07:42 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bryanmurr (Post 1778344)
nobby, is ur rack screwed into where the grabrail would be. i never use my rear seat, just the seat cowl, i wonder could one be fabricated to use with the motech rack.

Yes - the rack has mounting points that bolt into the grab rail fixings.

defiant 11-02-09 06:37 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Been thinking of getting a top box for a while but put off by the cost of the bloody things.
Just spotted the Tech 26 Litre Detachable top box in Crossans (all i can afford) and but i've never fitted a rack before and know nothing about doing it.
Do you guys reckon bolting it to the pillion seat would work?
It's the 4th item down, cheers...
http://www.thevisorshop.com/acatalog/Luggage.html

bryanmurr 11-02-09 07:14 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defiant (Post 1781175)
Been thinking of getting a top box for a while but put off by the cost of the bloody things.
Just spotted the Tech 26 Litre Detachable top box in Crossans (all i can afford) and but i've never fitted a rack before and know nothing about doing it.
Do you guys reckon bolting it to the pillion seat would work?
It's the 4th item down, cheers...
http://www.thevisorshop.com/acatalog/Luggage.html


id say it depends what the plate is like, they dont seem to mention what rack is required :(

FG1 11-02-09 07:43 PM

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I would imagine it would if the mounting holes on the rack are in numerous places.
If you do it, make sure that the bolts will not foul anything under the seat when it is put back on. I have shown a piccy of the underside of my seat but if yours is a curvy then it may be different.
Here's my pointy seat showing the four bolts.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...0/RIMG0102.jpg

defiant 11-02-09 10:03 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FG1 (Post 1781242)
I would imagine it would if the mounting holes on the rack are in numerous places.
If you do it, make sure that the bolts will not foul anything under the seat when it is put back on. I have shown a piccy of the underside of my seat but if yours is a curvy then it may be different.
Here's my pointy seat showing the four bolts.

Think i'll chance getting it, a very cheap solution if it works out.
Cheers...

Ceri JC 13-02-09 11:41 AM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
I'm looking at a cross between Nobby and PG1's solutions; using the spare pillion seat for when it's just me on the bike and the swmotech rack when the gf is on the back. Anyone know if you can buy spare mounting plates for the E450N? Googling seems to just throw up the box including the mounting plate...

On a related note, has anyone used one of these:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/image...tview/269/202/
on the SV650 with Givi panniers? Any comments/experiences?

FG1 13-02-09 11:51 AM

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Spare plates are readily available. Have a shop around for a bargain but the one you need for a E450N is a Monolock plate and NOT a Monokey.

FG1 13-02-09 11:53 AM

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First search on e bay and this is what I just found

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIVI-MONOLOCK-...1%7C240%3A1308

Ceri JC 13-02-09 04:06 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FG1 (Post 1783587)
First search on e bay and this is what I just found

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIVI-MONOLOCK-...1%7C240%3A1308

Nice, ta for that. I didn't realise they were universal: I'd been searching for ones specific to the E450N.

steveg 20-02-09 06:45 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
This looks a great idea a couple of quick questions :-
I have a SV650SK5 are all "pointy" rear seats compatible (when searching for 2nd hand rear seat)
When grab rail is removed for space for top box are there any spaces you can get to fill in gap where grab rail was ( if needed )
ta muchly

FG1 20-02-09 06:51 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Not 100% but I would imagine they are the same. I would say that K4 onwards are definately the same. I also think that you might get away with leaving the grab rail in situ. looking at where my box is located I would imagine the grab rail isn't an issue. I will check later if you like...

steveg 20-02-09 06:53 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Cheers if you could check re grab rails it would be great

Thanks for your help

Steve

FG1 23-02-09 08:36 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Steve, sorry for taking so long. The box fits fine with the grab rail fitted.

steveg 23-02-09 08:57 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FG1 (Post 1795312)
Steve, sorry for taking so long. The box fits fine with the grab rail fitted.

Nice one thanks for checking , will keep an eye out for a cheap rear seat

Cheers Steveg

FG1 23-02-09 09:16 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
I think a certain Soho member who owns a blue "curvy" has one that might be available.

steveg 23-02-09 09:18 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FG1 (Post 1795405)
I think a certain Soho member who owns a blue "curvy" has one that might be available.

Need a rear seat for a "pointy"

Cheers Steveg

zsv650 23-02-09 09:27 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
ebay it steve usually load's of seats on there.

FG1 23-02-09 09:31 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
It is a pointy seat he has...............

Ceri JC 21-03-09 11:51 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quick update; just fitted an identical setup to FG1's, I'm more than impressed. Very quick/easy to set up and dirt cheap at under £100 all in, including a new rear seat in better nick than my own! Feels nice and stable, much more so than the ones out on arms on most bikes. Looks as good as a top box can (still ****ing hideous ;)) and my laptop bag just fits in there, so ideal for work. Ta for all the help advice folks. Will post back my findings after a few thousand miles with it all in place.

I'll probably still get the sw motech and a spare plate for touring with soft panniers and the other half in the summer, but this should be more than adequate for work for the meantime.

Ceri JC 31-03-09 09:07 AM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
1200 miles on, I'm sure I made the right choice. Seems to be 100% waterproof, even when overloaded to the point it needs to be bent about to close properly. I can fit a big laptop rucksac, a skypak 122ltr holdall, a suit and two days changes of clothes and a pair of smart shoes in there. The Monolock system is great, very fast to fit/remove the box, sub 10 seconds. It's not 100% rock solid stable, but then, nothing I've seen (other than built into the fairing ones on massive tourers) has been. Definately more secure than the usual, 'out on arms' mounts. In terms of aerodynamics, filtering width and handling, I often forget it's there.

I will still probably get the SWMotech rack and a spare mounting plate for use when touring two up or when I have to carry loads and need a tent/similar across the pillion seat. I can get that when the weather improves enough that the other half will want to come out on it.

stevie16v 25-05-09 07:54 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Has anyone done this on a curvy? IM looking at it just now,Might order the parts this week, Just want to see how secure it is Also, is there a way of tightening the pillion seat slightly. When its locked on, i can wiggle it a wee bit. Not much tho

Ceri JC 01-03-10 10:27 AM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Anyone looking to do this might want to consider buying my setup:
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...30#post2197730

cbay 20-03-10 09:52 PM

Re: Suzuki's SV Top Case
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shonadoll (Post 1776222)

I have this one which I bought off shonadoll, but I do hate having to unbolt the back part etc when I need to look pretty / put the pillion seat on.

I might do the pillion DIY job but is it pretty secure as I commute 40miles into London which involves filtering (ALOT OF!) I want to make sure its secure.


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