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Spiderman 11-11-07 03:08 PM

Re: If you were....
 
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Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 1337442)
There's no need to be childish about this.

Says the person who posted this in the first place.

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Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 1337336)
He was sitting in Starbucks reading his book, I leant down with a lighter and lit his shoelaces - highkacked a buggy and drove 20 gates away! After 15 minutes I heard no booms so all was clear :)

Yeh well done to you for not making childish remarks.

I find the entirety of this thread pointless and i dont see you raise a valid question anywhere in it.

Go do a search about those 2 guys who got booted off the plane, we discussed that on here at the time and read for yourself other peoples views instead of starting a wholly therorectical post that allows you to pour out your narrow minded anti-muslim attitudes will you.

Would you post a similar question about any other minority?

If you were....walking down a road in london and saw a group of blacks, dressed in black peoples clothes and looking very very shifty, muttering black street slang under their breath....would you turn and walk the other way cos all balck people are muggers or report to the cops that you have seen a group that you think are about to mug someone???


Oh and if you look at the CCTV of the alleged 9/11 bombers they all wore western clothes and not one person from the security staff that checked them before they boarded said "i remember him real well, his perfume was so strong it really stuck with me" did they?

So for all the above reasons is why i'm ripping into you.

if you have a question to ask then ask it, dont just post racist or inflammatory threads.

Flex 11-11-07 05:11 PM

Re: If you were....
 
appropriate topic....check this shiz out guys lol http://www.animatronics.org/strangers/strangers.htm

neio79 11-11-07 05:16 PM

Re: If you were....
 
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Originally Posted by Kinvig (Post 1337350)
I can just see it now: Friday night down Infernos - a young asian lad all dressed up, stinking of CK1, singing along to whatever-it-is-that-passes-for-music-nowadays, when suddenly SO19 kick the doors in & shoot him after a tip-off from nieo79!

;o)

Take the mick but some of the combat indicators to Suicide bombers are that, and its not just that, we are taught the signs to recognise in pre deployment training.

but i cant remember it all now. so no i am not saying all nice smelling muslims dressed in trad dress and chanting verses from the Koran are terrorists, but out where i might go it could well indicate to one.

gettin2dizzy 11-11-07 06:11 PM

Re: If you were....
 
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Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1337469)
Says the person who posted this in the first place.

I find the entirety of this thread pointless and i dont see you raise a valid question anywhere in it.

I stated earlier that provocation is sometimes needed in order to start a discussion. Sometimes playing devils advocate can assist in viewing arguments for what they are; a practice that anyone who wants to have an understanding about a given topic should give thought to.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1337469)

Go do a search about those 2 guys who got booted off the plane, we discussed that on here at the time and read for yourself other peoples views instead of starting a wholly therorectical post that allows you to pour out your narrow minded anti-muslim attitudes will you.

Would you post a similar question about any other minority?

My views are as anti-Muslim as they are anti-religious; Islamic beliefs strike a nerve with me for their prehistoric barbaric views. How can we tip-toe around a religion that repeatedly encourages stoning, rape, beating of women; a religion that values a mans thought as twice that as a woman. Flogging women for showing flesh, murder of homosexuals. The list is endless.

Regardless of minorities Christianity suffers from an intolerant, vindictive, unjust, sadomasochistic god. Followers do just that in fear or ignorance to the true extent of their religion. However Christianity does not suffer quite to same extremist wing the the Islamic religion does and consequently wasn't the issue at hand when I wrote the first post.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman (Post 1337469)
If you were....walking down a road in london and saw a group of blacks, dressed in black peoples clothes and looking very very shifty, muttering black street slang under their breath....would you turn and walk the other way cos all balck people are muggers or report to the cops that you have seen a group that you think are about to mug someone???

As a matter of fact I was mugged by a group of them in London, (use the search on here if you like, I've commented more than once on it).
After contacting the police who arrived on site quickly they didn't pursue the gang; no. Instead I had to try and work out exactly what ethnic origin they were from for their paperwork for fear of me launching a generalised seemingly racist report.

I would keep my distance yes. I would also keep my distance from a white boy driving a car at 3am, is that racist? Is it racist to attribute the rapid spread of aids to African men immigrating over here having unprotected sex with multiple partners? It was ok to blame the homosexual population at the time. There a simple facts about racial differences that are environmentally created; often by religion and as such should be respected, understood and acted upon.

If that makes you view me as a racist then please do, those of us who can speak honestly and openly have nothing to hide behind. I have no issue with race; merely social differences and the sooner we break those barriers by accepting them the sooner we can live in a peaceful multicultural world. Those of us who pretend everything is the same nation to nation for fear of questioning are the ones with the racist beliefs.

stewie 11-11-07 06:16 PM

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Can I just add something to this, its not racism we are talking about its religous bigotry, racism is against a race i.e. the germans, religlous bigotry is against a religion like... I dunno.... Isalm

21QUEST 11-11-07 06:32 PM

Re: If you were....
 
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Originally Posted by gettin2dizzy (Post 1337657)
I stated earlier that provocation is sometimes needed in order to start a discussion. Sometimes playing devils advocate can assist in viewing arguments for what they are; a practice that anyone who wants to have an understanding about a given topic should give thought to.



My views are as anti-Muslim as they are anti-religious; Islamic beliefs strike a nerve with me for their prehistoric barbaric views. How can we tip-toe around a religion that repeatedly encourages stoning, rape, beating of women; a religion that values a mans thought as twice that as a woman. Flogging women for showing flesh, murder of homosexuals. The list is endless.

Regardless of minorities Christianity suffers from an intolerant, vindictive, unjust, sadomasochistic god. Followers do just that in fear or ignorance to the true extent of their religion. However Christianity does not suffer quite to same extremist wing the the Islamic religion does and consequently wasn't the issue at hand when I wrote the first post.


As a matter of fact I was mugged by a group of them in London, (use the search on here if you like, I've commented more than once on it).
After contacting the police who arrived on site quickly they didn't pursue the gang; no. Instead I had to try and work out exactly what ethnic origin they were from for their paperwork for fear of me launching a generalised seemingly racist report.

I would keep my distance yes. I would also keep my distance from a white boy driving a car at 3am, is that racist? Is it racist to attribute the rapid spread of aids to African men immigrating over here having unprotected sex with multiple partners? It was ok to blame the homosexual population at the time. There a simple facts about racial differences that are environmentally created; often by religion and as such should be respected, understood and acted upon.

If that makes you view me as a racist then please do, those of us who can speak honestly and openly have nothing to hide behind. I have no issue with race; merely social differences and the sooner we break those barriers by accepting them the sooner we can live in a peaceful multicultural world. Those of us who pretend everything is the same nation to nation for fear of questioning are the ones with the racist beliefs.

You know, you talk a lot of sense but also spurt plenty of <insert own word>.......yep, I'm not in the mood for typing/can't be arsed so we'll leave it at that. Make of it what you will.


Ben

gettin2dizzy 11-11-07 06:40 PM

Re: If you were....
 
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Originally Posted by 21QUEST (Post 1337672)
You know, you talk a lot of sense but also spurt plenty of <insert own word>.......yep, I'm not in the mood for typing/can't be arsed so we'll leave it at that. Make of it what you will.


Ben

:rolleyes:

Yeah, It's hard to put a point across when you know so many people will read what they want to hear.

redbouy 11-11-07 07:05 PM

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a group of terrorist's or just a small section of a group. Should we have close control of all of them, from all countrys. Every few weeks one is in the news killing ppl.
14 to 19 year old males [correct me if im wrong] going in to schools and killing ppl they have been with for years.
All white males aged 14/19 must now go and have finger prints taken/photos. you are after all the same "sort" of group. ?
Every where has a "group" and this years "group" is .... Cuba/ NI/ ME/ on and on.
The shoe bomber was white male 25ish i think. ?
One mans terrorists is another mans freedom fighter. depends on the winning side.

On the plane boarding thing. I look at ppl walking down the street talking to themself all the time. Are you a bit funny.? oh no just on the phone.

Pedrosa 11-11-07 07:14 PM

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Many of the objectionable ideas supposedly finding favour with some elements of the Muslim faith are purely down to their own spin and interpretation of the Koran. There are different kinds of muslim just as there are variations of christians.

Remember the other thread about the lady JW who would not accept blood? The meaning in the bible is not to use human blood as nourishment as in food. The not accepting blood transfusions is another example of a very poor interpretation,but with the difference that the results impound upon the immediate family and friends of the JW and not the world at large.

tactcom7 11-11-07 07:28 PM

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Dunno if this clears anything up but the 'supposed' signs of a suicide bomber may include one or more of the following;

Sweating profusely.
Completely clean shaven.
White robes.
Wearing sunglasses.
Chanting or muttering under their breath.
Playing with religious beads.
Holes torn in the clothes (to allow blast and shrapnel out).
Wires protruding underneath clothes.
Eyes in a trance like state.
Protecting the genitals at the moment before detonation.

There's loads more but these are all I could think of!


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