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DanDare 11-01-08 11:04 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
I think the important factor here is how people interpret the word used. IE: I personally don't think the word is at all rascist, my interpretation of monkey is : a stupid person who does not think rationally and acts without thinking first.

Others may see the word as a link to a country.

gettin2dizzy 11-01-08 11:05 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
look at the trouble you've caused here ol boc!..... you cheeky monkey you...;)

Lozzo 11-01-08 11:09 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 21QUEST (Post 1383816)
Now, I don't know the reason for Ol Boc posting(and I haven't read anything about said incident) but it does seem like, quite a few people(of all races etc), are now so sensitive, it's almost becoming a joke.

As some people know I am of mainly Maltese parentage, most of my mates know me as 'Spic'. It doesn't bother me in the slightest, in fact I had speedyspic.co.uk as my email address until very recently.

Biker Biggles 11-01-08 11:11 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
But what if I called you a Valletta Monkey?
Crossed with George.;)

Spiderman 11-01-08 11:12 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pencil shavings (Post 1383826)
banter and rasism are different things, people seem to be getting them mixed up. taking the **** out of somone who is ur friend for being a 'northen money' is cool as you both know its a joke and ment as banter.

calling a black person a monkey is a detremental way is rasist, not funny and not a joke. they are 2 very different things.

i am white, but have been on the recieving end of rasism in the past, isnt fun.

i have one black friend who is always calling me 'my nigger'. i dont take this is a rasist way, because its not, its him saying we r cool.

as to the person who said they called a little kid a cheeky money, the parent who got upset over reacted IMO. u can call a black person a money in a non rasist way, same as you can say it in a rasist way.

the origional post seems to be very confused, if its banter its brought up an irelevant issuse of raism.

I think you sir are the only person who understands where i am comming from.

No, the word monkey is not racist by istelf. Add before it the words "go back to your own country you dirty, stinking" and what does it become?

These things must be in context and like i said at the begining calling a black person a name when you are angry with them can only be to offend them.
Calling a child who is playing up a silly monkey or your mate a northern monkeymeans nothing and could never be taken as intending to insult.

Biker Biggles 11-01-08 11:16 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
Spidi.Wasnt there an Iranian pop group called Band a Abbas?
Still waiting for the taxi.:)

timwilky 11-01-08 11:18 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
My sister in law is black, she always called my nephew her own son a monkey.

How would people feel about her dad known throughout the Chorley as Black Jack. yes because of his colour. Not as a racist insult. but as an quick,easy and accurate way of identifying him. As soon as you said his name, everybody would know who you were referring to. The same with the best plasterer here about. Black Dennis.

Now black jack was walking through chorley one afternoon when somebody did racially abuse him. called him a black *******. The stupid idiot was stood in a hole in the middle of the road when he shouted his insult. Jack went over and applied his boot to the side of the idiots head. Saying "I might be black, but I at least know who my father was". Yet when he has comes upto my house. I have called him exactly the same thing, to his face. but never with malicious intent. What I am trying to say and waffling too much, is the words don't matter. It is how you say them.

21QUEST 11-01-08 11:22 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
Spidey, I see where you are coming from. I just don't completely agree with it.

pencil shaving, detrimental eh...if the other person , who may just be an overly sensitive monkey deems it to be?


I see both sides of the coin but even here, it's difficult to agree some sort of balanced(haha) consensus of opinion. Yep, it's difficult.

Now, for all those who IMO, can be overly sensitive, not until you are accused of being a racist so and so plus more, perhaps we can say, you don't really understand.




Ben

21QUEST 11-01-08 11:27 AM

Re: Racist slurs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timwilky (Post 1383846)
My sister in law is black, she always called my nephew her own son a monkey.

How would people feel about her dad known throughout the Chorley as Black Jack. yes because of his colour. Not as a racist insult. but as an quick,easy and accurate way of identifying him. As soon as you said his name, everybody would know who you were referring to. The same with the best plasterer here about. Black Dennis.

Now black jack was walking through chorley one afternoon when somebody did racially abuse him. called him a black *******. The stupid idiot was stood in a hole in the middle of the road when he shouted his insult. Jack went over and applied his boot to the side of the idiots head. Saying "I might be black, but I at least know who my father was". Yet when he has comes upto my house. I have called him exactly the same thing, to his face. but never with malicious intent. What I am trying to say and waffling too much, is the words don't matter. It is how you say them.


.....but what if some other black person heard you calling him that and was offended? :p

Tim , just to make it clear, good post and not disagreeing.


Ben

Daimo 11-01-08 12:15 PM

Re: Racist slurs
 
Sticks and stones will break my bones?

Iz it coz i iz white? Homie

Does this no longer mean I call call most car mechanics Monkeys???


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