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Re: Tyres and grip?

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Originally Posted by cartwrim (Post 1575958)

Footpegs weren't scraping though come to think of it, so I must still have some room for leaning further :confused: Must try harder!

I often wonder that???

I'm pretty much on the edge front and rear on one side, yet I hang my toes off the edge of the peg so that my toe will touch down way before the peg, yet it never has.

I'm beginning to think I would loose the front or back way before the pegs touch down.

Re: Tyres and grip?

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Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1575910)

Plastic knifes and guns in Barnsley so nothing really to worry about...

As already mentioned, no they are completely different and have the same similarites between a TL1000S and an SV650S. Technically it is not the same engine, different cylinders and hugely different internals (I have seen thsi with my own eyes). Different frames, the RSV's is far superior, and suspension let alone characteristics.

No offence to you 'TheGr33k', I agree that the Falco is an excellent bike for the road but fast road riding is its down fall as it is well known and documented to not offer much feed back to the rider. It handles well but it is vague, compare it to a bike like the Firestorm, RSV, 999, 04 onwards Fireblades and R1's etc and you will notice.

The Engine is the same as the 2000-2001 small valve RSV engine. 02 they changed some of the internals but not greatly Just bigger intake valves. 04-06 the engine went to single spark plug per cylinder and 07+ they went for 33mm Exhaust valves and they made it rev more through making the drive train more hardy and adding titanium bits for more strength and less weight. The Bore and stroke is the same accross the whole range as is compression (though the 04+ may have more). The Falco was given twin Exhausts to give it more mid range which causes the top to go down by a couple of BHP... but who wants peaky power on a twin?

Read towards the bottom of this. http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2585

The Forks are the same USD Showa as the RSV 00-03. Like I said the dimensions of the frame is the same, the swinging arm while looking different places the rear wheel in the exact same place hence the easy swap to an RSV swinger. The Brakes are the same. The only place the Falco was let down was its poor choice fo rear shock. The wheels are the same brembo units as fitted to all RSV's (except R's 00-03/factory 04-06) upto 06.

As for vagueness yes standard they are a little, front can push wide when on the power though this mostly due to the rear shock and terrable settings on the suspension out of the factory. Play with settings lower the forks through the clamps (so there is about 25mm showind at the top) and reduce rebound dampening it feels more solid then ever. I can easily accelerate through an entire corner hard without it feeling out of place or squirming at all. Once I get a good rear shock I expect it will be Unreal if the increase in feel from the rear is as good as people say.

There are a lot of people track these bikes (after new rear shock and Oz wheels) and they prefer them to the RSV's.

Cheers for reading... Sorry this thread is so de-railed. :rolleyes:

Re: Tyres and grip?

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Originally Posted by G (Post 1575919)

Yeah it was a little joke. i know you love the falco, just joining in the neio digging :lol::smt052 sorry the post went 3 pages off topic because of it, love you really :(

Don't worry... Ill let you off... this time :p

Sorry for the reply it was a bit bitchy. I just got the wrong end of the stick. :( I think some people do think what you said... but they (probably) don't know much about them...

All's well.

You have an SV? Its not fair if you do... I cant really take the mick as I have one and its the SV forums. :rolleyes: Bah. :D

Re: Tyres and grip?

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Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1575991)

You have an SV? I cant really take the mick as I have one and its the SV forums. :rolleyes: Bah. :D

Nope, I now have a Honda lol.......so feel free to take the **** :D

Re: Tyres and grip?

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Originally Posted by G (Post 1575995)

Nope, I now have a Honda lol.......so feel free to take the **** :D

Which one?

Re: Tyres and grip?

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Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1575998)

Which one?

600rr :dwarf:

Re: Tyres and grip?

Not much to be said... Except its clearly got too many cylinder in the wrong configuration. What else can I say... Half the bloody forum has them :p

Re: Tyres and grip?

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Originally Posted by ThEGr33k (Post 1575972)

The Falco was given twin Exhausts to give it more mid range

Now that i know is manufacturer BS, a single can will boost the mid range not a twin can set up. Now that is a racing/tuning proven fact with V-twins!!!

Their are more differences than what you said, many of the engine internals are different (proof - different part numbers) and as for the forks yes they are the same but only on the outside. I have helped run an RSV race bike and a Falco engine was bought for spare parts by mistake.

I'm not hear to slag off the Falco, I think and know it is an excellent bike for real road riding, i'm just trying to state the facts, pass on my knowledge/experiences and not let people get misguided as to what is what. There is already to much BS coming from the motorcycle manufacturers, dealers and press now a days to the point that it is getting as bad as the cars!

TheGr33ks Falco Thread

Split off from the other tyres and grip thread, discuss the falco here...

Re: TheGr33ks Falco Thread

Gr33k has a falco?! Since when?!