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plowsie 29-09-08 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by simesb (Post 1638063)
Yip. And that is easily catered for with a "grace" period - have to repass between 9.5 and 10.5 years. I know it's not a fashionable view, but I think it rediculous that you can pass your test and drive for 50 odd years before you are required to state that you think you're still okay to drive.

Would you be happy flying if you thought that the pilot hadn't been skills-checked for 40 years?
So if Mr DSA sent you a letter tomorrow saying your required to re-take your test before you can drive again after a certain date...Be it car or bike or both...You have no transport to do anything...you fail the checks because you don't use your indicators enough or your observations are a danger to other (as in you don't do very many).

Would you be happy? I know I bloody wouldn't.

DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting on your riding at all just using it as an example to see your view on it :)

EDIT: I think I may have misinterpreted (sp) your post SimeSB, apologies if I have :(

Grinch 29-09-08 01:24 PM
Re: Simply Indicating is not enough!
 
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Originally Posted by SuZuKiBaBe (Post 1638070)
Same thing happened to me yesterday... was raging! turning right at roundabout... see woman in BMW on left... she didnt even look to see if anything was coming :shock: - drove thru missing my bike by a few inches - even after i took my finger off the hooter almost a mile (ok,slight exaggeration) down the road she still hadnt noticed me..... untill i pulled up next to her and told her her fortune in sign language

:smt014
And she got home and told her other half that some biker swore at her for no reason.

SuzukiNess 29-09-08 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Grinch (Post 1638084)
And she got home and told her other half that some biker swore at her for no reason.

her face when she saw me was priceless...

i think she got home and asked her other half for some loo paper and wet wipes

:)

silly old bag

Flamin_Squirrel 29-09-08 01:41 PM
Re: Simply Indicating is not enough!
 
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Originally Posted by simesb (Post 1638063)
Yip. And that is easily catered for with a "grace" period - have to repass between 9.5 and 10.5 years. I know it's not a fashionable view, but I think it rediculous that you can pass your test and drive for 50 odd years before you are required to state that you think you're still okay to drive.

Would you be happy flying if you thought that the pilot hadn't been skills-checked for 40 years?
You're missing the point. People usually aren't bad drivers because they can't drive well, it's because they can't be arsed to. Hence re-testing solves nothing.

simesb 29-09-08 01:44 PM
Re: Simply Indicating is not enough!
 
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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel (Post 1638106)
You're missing the point. People usually aren't bad drivers because they can't drive well, it's because they can't be arsed to. Hence re-testing solves nothing.
Why test to begin with then?

Flamin_Squirrel 29-09-08 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by simesb (Post 1638111)
Why test to begin with then?
To make sure people can drive to a reasonable standard.

But as I keep saying, even if someone can drive well it doesn't mean they will. Surely that's obvious?

simesb 29-09-08 01:53 PM
Re: Simply Indicating is not enough!
 
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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel (Post 1638117)
To make sure people can drive to a reasonable standard.

But as I keep saying, even if someone can drive well it doesn't mean they will. Surely that's obvious?
So you are saying that 20-30 years after passing their test everybody can still drive to test standard but few bother. I wish I had your faith in the human nature.

How then do you ensure that people do drive/ride to a reasonable standard? There is no retesting here except after disqualification and I know that mandatory retesting will not be introduced (and you don't believe it will work.) What then do you suggest?

Flamin_Squirrel 29-09-08 02:03 PM
Re: Simply Indicating is not enough!
 
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Originally Posted by simesb (Post 1638128)
So you are saying that 20-30 years after passing their test everybody can still drive to test standard but few bother. I wish I had your faith in the human nature.

How then do you ensure that people do drive/ride to a reasonable standard? There is no retesting here except after disqualification and I know that mandatory retesting will not be introduced (and you don't believe it will work.) What then do you suggest?
I'll answer that with a question - what do you think causes most accidents?

simesb 29-09-08 02:12 PM
Re: Simply Indicating is not enough!
 
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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel (Post 1638138)
I'll answer that with a question - what do you think causes most accidents?
So you don't think retesting would work, but don't have any ideas yourself..... :rolleyes:

AndyBrad 29-09-08 02:13 PM
Re: Simply Indicating is not enough!
 
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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel (Post 1637967)
Agreed. Unlicenced drivers are probably not that significant. Uninsured drivers on the other hand...
never been to halifax have you? 70% of taxis are dodgy


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