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carty 05-02-09 10:20 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
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Originally Posted by Ed (Post 1773115)
usually there's a 1 o'clock stampede:rolleyes:

Crikey they last out a while! I've usually finished my lunch by 12:01!

Be fair to them Ed, it doesn't seem like you've got your head down this morning :-dd

:-D

G 05-02-09 10:21 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
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Originally Posted by cartwrim (Post 1773119)
Be fair to them Ed, it doesn't seem like you've got your head down this morning :-dd

IT policy clearly isnt enforced

lol

Lou M 05-02-09 10:22 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
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Originally Posted by Ed (Post 1773115)
I'm not that bad!!! Yesterday's explosion was over my email asking the team to take staggered lunchbreaks so as to ensure we have enough people to answer the phone, as usually there's a 1 o'clock stampede:rolleyes:


As long as they have a break then not a lot to moan about! When I worked for the Beeb we had to stagger lunches, at first took it in turns for who went at 12 and who went at 1, in the end we agreed that we preferred a set time, so one group stuck with the 12 and one with the 1 o'clock.
I'm now lucky if I ever manage to get a lunch break.

petevtwin650 05-02-09 10:24 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
Tim Wilky's company seem to have the right idea.

I got docked a days wages last year even though I rang in in plenty of time to ask for a days holiday. I deemed it imprudent to drive in those conditions. I only work in a warehouse ffs.

Aren't people being advised not to travel unless absolutely neccessary?

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flymo 05-02-09 10:24 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
I'm with you Ed.

I think the option of making up the time or a days holiday is fair enough. I guess it comes down to the working relationship you have with this person. For somebody who is otherwise hard working, doesnt complain about the odd half hour extra work and honest I would give them the benefit of the doubt and let it go.

If not, the option of making up time or a holiday. Its only fair.

I have a pretty good working relationship at work, I often go out of my way to do things that technically I dont have to. The odd late bit of work, meeting at lunch time etc. For that I get flexibility and trust, I can take a couple of hours to see my kids Christmas carol concert etc without having to claim a holiday.

It works well for me and I feel like an adult, not a school kid. I think they call it work/life balance these days :-)

Dangerous Dave 05-02-09 10:34 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
I say don't pay them, there is no such thing as being snowed in.

Stu 05-02-09 10:40 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
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Originally Posted by Ed (Post 1773073)
Me, that is!

If people cannot get to work because they claim to be snowed in, am I right to deduct a day's pay?

Absolutely not Ed! As an employer it is your risk if people are not able to get to work. It's your fault for employing someone who lives out in the sticks & you chose not to provide accommodation in a flat above the office ;) If they were on a contract that you paid them the hours worked then that would be different.

Take my example on Monday, there was literally 12 inches of snow outside my house (35 miles from the office) so I couldn't ride & the Police had closed the slip road to the main trunk road to London so I walked for an hour & half to the train station to find that there were no trains running (bloody local radio couldn't even report that :roll: & the internet was so overloaded I couldn't get onto National rail.com)
So I would say I made sufficient effort to get to work & I would not be willing to even take that day as holiday nor be expected to make up the time. Plus you may know that no a single bus ran that morning in London

On the other hand if the person in question clearly made insufficient effort to get into work you can do what you like with him - dock a days holiday/wages or fire him for lying to you depending on how much you rely on him.

Stu 05-02-09 10:42 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
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Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave (Post 1773131)
I say don't pay them, there is no such thing as being snowed in.

True, someone ffrom Guy's hospital walked 18 miles in the snow to get to work :shock:

But Feck that ;)

Gazza77 05-02-09 10:48 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
I'd say offer them the alternative; lose a days annual leave or take it as unpaid. If there is public transport available and it is not unreasonable to get to, then it should be used.

As people probably know, I get the train into work everyday rather than drive or ride the 50+ mile round trip. Everyday this week the train has been loads quieter than usual and I can't understand it; if people don't want to drive, then surely it ought to be busier with people using alternatives to get to work. I had to walk down steep, unlit country lanes to get to the station which is about 1 1/2 miles from my house in up to a foot of snow on Tuesday, and I was still on time.

If I was being lazy and couldn't be bothered to go to work, I'd not have been in this week, as there is still 6 inches of snow down the lane to my house, so no way of getting my car out.

[When I was a lad mode on] People today just won't put the effort in...:rolleyes: [When I was a lad mode off]

Ed 05-02-09 10:49 AM

Re: Hard nosed b*stard
 
You'll all be delighted to hear that said person has just arrived:cheers:

I posted originally immediately after I called the person concerned, so it was hardly a mammoth struggle to get in.


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