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hongman 23-02-11 09:04 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
Getting blipping on downshifts right is massively gratifying (at least for me). The sound of a perfectly timed blip, the smoothness of it, lurvely. I still miss the timing on an odd blip and it disappoints me somewhat but I've only been riding a few months here and there...

Daveog 23-02-11 11:11 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
Thanks everyone - that's great, hopefully with practice I can iron out lock-ups as I'm not a fan after this mornings heart in mouth moment. Thanks Chris for the physics lesson too, now I know what I'm trying to acheive it makes more sense. Just like that time I read an article on the physics of couter-steering - makes it much easier to put into practice.

nikon70 24-02-11 01:13 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
stuff changing gear, ignore the clutch, just hit the brakes hard! if you get a lock, release and reapply quickly!
your bike will stall, you will be in the wrong gear but you will have stopped quicker and hopefully not had that crash.

maxinc 24-02-11 03:19 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
I always thought that emergency breaking is about stopping as quickly as possible under full control. The way I see it, messing with gear changes in crisis situation, can only steal away from your limited concentration or even worse, destabilise the bike.

Weirdfish 24-02-11 07:53 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
If it's a real emergency DON'T touch the clutch or gears, engage the clutch and you disengage the drive to the rear wheel and it becomes much more likely that you will lock the rear wheel when your foot goes onto the rear brake pedal as there is nothing physically driving the wheel around thus it is much more likely to lock. The DSA teach this method for a reason, sure if you are Valentino Rossi F*ck about with the gears all you like but unless you are a true riding God just concentrate on the brakes, believe me getting it right in a sticky situation takes 100% concentration. As for the truck behind you well if he's that close to you that he's likely to flatten you then maybe you should anticipate that by increasing the distance between you and the car in front, don't they say prevention is better than cure? Good luck and practice will always help!:)

tim8061 24-02-11 09:45 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nikon70 (Post 2489629)
stuff changing gear, ignore the clutch, just hit the brakes hard! if you get a lock, release and reapply quickly!

:confused:

If you hit the rear hard you'll lock it up and probably crash, if you grab the front the same could happen IMHO

Get on the front quickly and progressively to load the tyre, rapidly building up to maximum front brake without locking it - something you can practice on a clear road sometime. As for the rear - well maximum front will probably have the rear skipping, so how much rear do you think you can apply?

Bluefish 24-02-11 10:04 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
ABS, runs away ;)

loonytoon 24-02-11 11:38 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
i had a near miss a couple of months ago where i had to brake fairly hard brought it to a nice controled stop tthen thought to my self a lil close pay attention then check mirrors make sure all was ok behind i then had a brown pants moment to see the car behind hadnt even started to brake here comes an sv sandwich. but training had kicked in even though i had to stop in a hurry i had spotted my escape up a curb only place to go which i did in a hurry an the car slid through where i was an slammed straight into the car that was infront of me due to being on his dam phone.
But after i thought that bad habit of mine on emergency stops had just possibly saved my life. ( bad habit flicking into first as i stop) dont do it intentionaly it just happens.
cheers
Ben

Holdup 24-02-11 11:48 PM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Viney (Post 2488747)
i do get the rear squirming every now and again through over enthusiastic down-changes :)

I miss that

stupid slipper clutches

:smt072

nikon70 25-02-11 11:58 AM

Re: Emergency stop - rear wheel lock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefishman (Post 2490010)
ABS, runs away ;)

cheat!


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